# Guilty Pleasures: Movies you like but are/were widely panned as a bad movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884 "2021-12-11T13:10:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/41 "2021-12-11T17:58:58Z")
Well, I’m glad I’m not alone in loving Hudson Hawk, so that’s happy happy. It is one of my favorite movies to put on in the background so I’m just hearing various one-liners, kind of like listening to MST3k while gaming. My other film of note in the category is The Shadow (1994). It suffers from being really tonally uneven, 90% of the time it is almost too self-aware of being a cheesy movie, but I still love the visuals and enjoy the soundtrack. I probably watch it at least twice a year still. ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/42 "2021-12-11T18:03:23Z")
_Citizen Kane_, _The Godfather_ and _Star Wars_. I don’t care what everyone thinks, I like them. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/43 "2021-12-11T18:07:35Z")
Very edgy of you to admit to liking those movies. ---
**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/44 "2021-12-11T18:31:46Z")
Let’s see… ‘Detroit Rock City’ ‘Wayne’s World’ ‘The Jerky Boys’ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/45 "2021-12-11T18:38:13Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Arnold Schwarznegger’s **Last American Hero** was widely panned, and garnered only 40% approval at Rotten Tomatoes, but I enjoyed it a lot when it was released, and still do. Did you mean _Last Action Hero_? Another vote for that. > [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > One of my guesses turns out to be higher than all of them. Ladies and gentlemen, with a 7.7 on imdb, I give you… > [@Odesio](#): > > _First Blood_ is a pretty good movie whose reputation suffers because of the sequels I think. I don’t think Rambo actually even kills anyone in the first movie. Yes, that was actually a pretty good movie where Rambo is dealing with war trauma and all the violence traces back to assholes who won’t just leave him the hell alone. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/46 "2021-12-11T18:56:19Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Did you mean _Last Action Hero_ ? Another vote for that. D’oh! I knew that! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/47 "2021-12-11T19:19:39Z")
> [@BrickBat](#): > > ‘Wayne’s World’ Was _Wayne’s World_ ever considered a bad movie? I consider it a good movie. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/48 "2021-12-11T19:26:46Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Was _Wayne’s World_ ever considered a bad movie? I consider it a good movie. I see that _Zorro, The Gay Blade_ is down at a mere 43% on Rotten Tomatoes; does that mean I can count it, or does George Hamilton earning a Golden Globe nom put it out of the running? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/49 "2021-12-11T19:35:58Z")
You can count whatever you want…even _Casablanca_. Just expect some will question whether it was a widely panned movie. I liked _Zorro_. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/50 "2021-12-11T19:52:20Z")
_Zorro, The Gay Blade_ was a great movie. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/51 "2021-12-11T20:02:04Z")
As others have mentioned, quite a few movies mentioned so far weren’t actually widely panned. However, _Last Action Hero_ scores a solid 40% on the Tomatometer, and even the Audience Score, which tends to be much higher for movies like this, is only 47%. But I’m thirding (or whatever we’re on now) it as a movie I like. I thought it was a genuinely funny deconstruction of action movie cliches while still being a pretty solid action movie itself, and I thought Schwartzenegger hit just the right balance of funny-Ahnold and serious-action-Arnold. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/52 "2021-12-11T20:04:29Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > _Zorro, The Gay Blade_ was a great movie. I remember thinking that it was very funny when I saw it in the early '80s. I haven’t seen it since then, and I’m not sure how well the humor (particularly the gay stereotypes) has aged. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/53 "2021-12-11T20:06:24Z")
I’ve always enjoyed the Super Mario movie. Hudson Hawk, as well. And Oscar… In general, I think that general audiences just don’t like friendly comedies. They want a comedy where something gross happens, someone is picked on, and/or someone is hurt. I don’t really feel guilty about any of these, for the record. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/54 "2021-12-11T20:06:48Z")
For my own contribution, _Armegeddon_, the 1998 Bruce Willis movie. I’m with the audience (73%) rather than the critics (38% Tomatometer). It was big and loud and dumb and _fun_. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/55 "2021-12-11T20:10:33Z")
My GF is very picky about movies. Downright snooty about them. But _Armageddon_ is an admitted guilty pleasure of hers. She loves that movie (she has a few other stupid movies she really likes too). ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/56 "2021-12-11T20:13:27Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Speaking of Kurt Russell I’ll add _Big Trouble in Little China_ . Waaay underrated movie. I think _Big Trouble in Little China_ may have been waaay underrated when it was first released - it was a pastiche of and homage to a genre that barely even existed at the time, wuxia, and of which mainstream American critics and audiences were largely ignorant. I don’t think it did too well at the box office, and I think contemporaneous critics were none too kind. It’s apparently aged into a classic though - 74% Critics/82% Audience on Rotten Tomatoes. Even at that, though, I personally agree it’s underrated - it’s one of my all time favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/57 "2021-12-11T20:29:57Z")
**The Ice Harvest** with John Cusack, Billy Bob Thornton, Randy Quaid and Oliver Platt. Rotten Tomato ratings in the 40s, but I liked it well enough to watch it twice. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/58 "2021-12-11T20:33:28Z")
> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > “Used Cars” with Kurt Russell. Holy cow…I had completely forgotten about that movie. In my teens and early twenties this was a go-to comedy for me. I really need to re-watch this. Great movie. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/59 "2021-12-11T21:05:53Z")
It’s been ages since I watched it, and my opinion might be different now, but I remember really enjoying _Oscar_ with Sylvester Stallone, and being surprised at how many people hated it. It gets 12% from critics on RT, but 63% from audiences and 6.5/10 on IMDb. I’ll add my voice to those who like _Hudson Hawk_ and _Last Action Hero._ ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/60 "2021-12-11T21:27:53Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > [@BrickBat](#): > > > > ‘Wayne’s World’ > > Was _Wayne’s World_ ever considered a bad movie? I consider it a good movie. Siskel & Ebert gave it 2 thumbs up calling it original, funny, and clever. My movie is The Lone Ranger (2013). It got mostly negative reviews and bombed at the box office. But I enjoyed the hell out of it. Maybe it’s because as a kid in the early 60’s I had the full LR get up with the blue pants/shirt, mask, even pearl gripped cap guns. And I’d watch the show on the local TV station before heading off to school every morning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884.md?page=4)