# Guilty Pleasures: Movies you like but are/were widely panned as a bad movie

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**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884 "2021-12-11T13:10:37Z")\
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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> If we define “bad” as “not historically accurate,” there are a bunch. For example:
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> [https://medium.com/@jack.delaney/the-15-most-historically-inaccurate-movies-ranked-7f5e96cb01c4](https://medium.com/@jack.delaney/the-15-most-historically-inaccurate-movies-ranked-7f5e96cb01c4)

I’m glad to see that Ben Affleck’s _Argo_ – about the six Americans rescued from Iran during the 1980 hostage crisis – is right up near the top of “historically inaccurate”. Particularly irksome is this bit:

> President Jimmy Carter acknowledged that “90% of the contributions to the ideas and the plan were Canadian.” New Zealand also helped, but the movie lays all the praise on the U.S.

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Yes! Best quote-#that looks like you…with breasts."

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Role Models.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/84 "2021-12-12T03:45:58Z")

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The Replacements; [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/replacements](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/replacements) . To this day, I’ll stop to watch if I happen to be flipping through channels.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/85 "2021-12-12T03:54:41Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> All the way until the last scene AI was brilliant. The stuck on happy ending killed it. My panned movie pic is Hudson Hawk. I think people went into it expecting a different kind of movie and were disappointed with the serio-comical movie it was.

Damn, I was going to post both these comments. We should hang out some time!

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/86 "2021-12-12T03:59:52Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> I will add “The Core.” It really is a bad movie, but I just love it despite itself.

I love The Core for one scene only. When the Crazy Scientist tells the Military Guy that it will take “A Hundred Billion Dollars” to build the MacGuffin Technology needed to save the world, the Military Guy asks, “Will you take a check?”

But that’s just the part you see in the trailer.

In the movie, Science Guy turns to the Military Guy, and says, “Why not use your credit card? You’ll get points that way.”

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/87 "2021-12-12T04:07:49Z")

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> [@FordPrefect](#):
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> 13th Warrior. So many fun lines in this movie.

I looove The 13th Warrior, which does indeed get a shitty 33% on Rotten Tomatoes. I even own it on DVD, somewhere. But then I liked the Michael Crichton source book. It’s chockablock with ahistorical nonsense as well, particularly in the category of a lot of the set dressing like most of the armor, Viking steeds (no they didn’t ride heavy horses) and utter tosh like grinding down a two-handed sword into a scimitar.

But I’m a sucker for the clever take on Beowulf and I think the actors mostly acquitted themselves…adequately. How’s that for a ringing endorsement!

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> [@Dropo](#):
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> Late-1960s comedies: _Casino Royale_, _Candy_, _The Magic Christian_, _Head_, etc.

Yo, have you seen _Skidoo_?

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/89 "2021-12-12T04:33:59Z")

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One of my favorite “bad” recent movies would have to be _Gods of Egypt_. It has a whopping 15% on Rotten Tomatoes. Gerard Butler didn’t even try to mask his Scottish brogue and the only Egyptian involved in the film was the director, Alex Proyas. The story was fun and the visual effects hold up fairly decently.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/90 "2021-12-12T05:05:22Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> But I’m a sucker for the clever take on Beowulf

Yes! That’s it exactly!

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guilty-pleasures-movies-you-like-but-are-were-widely-panned-as-a-bad-movie/955884/91 "2021-12-12T05:07:18Z")

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I have never watched God’s of Egypt, and I probably never will, but somehow, somewhere I read an review of how that was the worst movie ever made by Becky Chambers and I discovered her writing. So, thank you Gods of Egypt!

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I recently watched all of my Top Ten Favourite 80s Fantasy Movies\* and one of them was **Krull** , which is objectively awful, but has a faithful following, and I love it despite desperately wanting to reach in and fix its flaws.

I don’t know if it’s considered a bad movie, but the only Jurassic Park/World movie I like is **Jurassic Park III**. I think it’s the only one that understood what it was trying to be and nailed it.

I liked **Tomorrowland**. I don’t know why so many didn’t. I also liked **Pirates of the Caribbean II and III** , I still don’t understand what people dislike so much.

One of the Pixar movies nobody seems to like, **The Good Dinosaur** , is actually really fun. (Meanwhile the one everyone praised that same year, _Inside Out_, I really do not like at all)

\*_Well, nine watched so far. Tenth tonight._

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> [@FordPrefect](#):
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> I have never watched God’s of Egypt, and I probably never will…

It was really, really, really bad.

I’m not sure how to convey how bad it was.

And I wanted to like it. Still awful. Terrible. Not remotely good.

The most interesting about it is how it ever got made.

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I liked UHF, Caveman, Hudson Hawk, Weekend at Bernies 1, Clue, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane, Big Trouble in Little China, Oscar, Fifth Element, 13th Warrior

Probably more, I tend to like more movies than dislike movies [though I am not overly fond of Cowboy/western films, I liked The Shootist and there is something primally grabbing about the John Wayne ‘[Fill your hand, you son of a bitch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoH_BeOTidY)’ that just really grabs me, though. Classic more balls than brains type action.] I will actually admit that I dislike and can not understand why people worship [for lack of a better word] a film like The Godfather or Apocalypse Now - the film The Freshman sort of makes fun of it for me - a film studies prof so into The Godfather he seems to make his entire class about how amazing the film is, to the point of he speaks every line in the film while they watch it in class, and he pretty much worships the ground upon which the godfather in the film walks upon … the film itself is actually funny and I will tend to watch it when it hits TV. I think it was panned so I probably need to add it to the list above.

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“Nightwing” was not liked. By anyone.  
The bat wings’ visible suppports. Great close-ups of them maniacally gnawing away at something bloodied. Flying directly into camera, like the viewer’s being attacked. David Warner’s sanctimonious, sweaty acting.  
Saw it with a friend in the theatre in grade nine, and when it showed DW 4X4ing through the desert with “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” as soundtrack, I was like - what the hell is Crystal Gayle being tied in with vampire bat hunting? Steve goes - “She’s in the trunk.”

Never got around to actually reading the reviews, but I’m pretty sure that “Food of the Gods” was not a widely critcally acclaimed movie as a multple-Oscar shoo-in, or favourite of Pauline Kael or (well maybe? 🤪) John Simon.  
It masochistically turned me on to the great Marjoe Gortner, who sucked me down the rabbit hole of “Star Crash”, along with a re-appreciation of his psychotic roles in “Viva Knievel” and “Earthquake”, the latter being maybe one of the first-ever creepy incel roles. (disgruntled, paranoid bagboy who’s apparently “misunderstood”)

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> I looove The 13th Warrior, which does indeed get a shitty 33% on Rotten Tomatoes. I even own it on DVD, somewhere.

This one made my jaw drop. I can’t believe it’s that low. The scene of the Arab diplomat learning the Viking’s language just by listening to them for several weeks/months by itself should give it a higher rating.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aVVURiaVgG8/maxresdefault.jpg "The 13th Warrior: "Learning the Language"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVURiaVgG8)

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Marjoe Gortner

Do you know about Gortner’s life before turning to acting?:

> **[Marjoe Gortner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner)**
>
> Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner (born January 14, 1944) is an American former evangelist preacher and actor. He first gained public attention during the late 1940s when his parents arranged for him to be ordained as a preacher at age four due to his extraordinary speaking ability, making him the youngest known in that position to this day. As a young man, he preached on the revival circuit and brought celebrity to the revival movement. As an adult, Gortner, having grown regretful, admitted that his days...

[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0331374/bio?ref\_=nm\_ov\_bio\_sm](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0331374/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)  
And there’s this, which I have to break up into three lines for some reason:  
http://  
www.sarahkernochan.  
com/documentaries/index.html

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Alex Proyas? Shit, that’s all you had to say (to quote Jules). He’s one of those directors I’ll always give a shot (another is David Twohy).

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I dearly love _Tank Girl_ and will watch it whenever I come across it.

The same goes for _Little Nicky_.

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I agree. It was like The Kentucky Fried Movie turned up to 11.

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