# Guinness, WTF were you thinking? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036 "2003-12-04T22:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrTuffPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MrTuffPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrTuffPaws)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/1 "2003-12-04T22:10:55Z")
I am a fan of Guinness beer. I like it and I drink it on tap, in can, and in bottle. Even though I prefer it in the can or on tap, I do think that the bottle is convenient, even though it is only a small 11.2 fl oz. When I heard that it came out in bottles, after seeing the satellite commercial, I searched all of the stores just to give it a try. At the time, it only came in 6 packs, but of late, Guinness has been offering 12 packs of bottles, and I thank you, except for one thing: YOU FOREGOT THE FUCKING HANDLE HOLES ON THE BOX!!! I don’t know how you treat your packaging designers, but I would treat them to a baseball, oh sorry, a cricket bat if I were you. How could you forget the handles??? Do you know how hard it makes it to carry multiple packs of the stuff??? I feel like a monkey being tested for creativity every time I have to move more than one pack. Thank you for bringing out the idiot in me. ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/2 "2003-12-04T22:24:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrTuffPaws \* > I don’t know how you treat your packaging designers, but I would treat them to a baseball, oh sorry, a **cricket bat** if I were you… Hurley. You mean a hurley, not a cricket bat. They don’t play much cricket on t’other side of the Irish Sea. I just carry them under my arm. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/3 "2003-12-04T22:40:37Z")
Should be a shellaleigh, surely? ---
**Author:** ![Palewriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@Palewriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palewriter)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/4 "2003-12-05T03:46:06Z")
Christ Almighty. Guinness in a bottle or a can? Bugger the handles, man. Where’s the TAP? - PW ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/5 "2003-12-05T10:35:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Palewriter \* > Christ Almighty. Guinness in a bottle or a can? Bugger the handles, man. Where’s the TAP? In the pub of course. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/6 "2003-12-05T12:55:36Z")
The bottles are nasty and watery. If you can’t get the tap, go with the cans. And don’t even talk about the nasty, non-nitrogen bottles. Ick. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/7 "2003-12-05T13:42:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrTuffPaws \* > > I feel like a monkey being tested for creativity every time I have to move more than one pack. This was pretty funny. Are you learning anything or do we need to shock you now? 😉 BTW I can only drink Guinness on tap, in Ireland. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/8 "2003-12-05T14:01:45Z")
No handles on the box? BRILLIANT! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Frank\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_2)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/9 "2003-12-05T15:36:45Z")
Dammit, **Jadis** I was gonna say that. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/10 "2003-12-05T16:03:25Z")
I’m glad _someone_ appreciates my humor! ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/11 "2003-12-05T16:10:12Z")
I’m afraid you’ve failed the “how desperate are you to drink Guinness” test. The true Guinness lover would _find a way_ to carry more than one box. It’s a Zen thing. As for the cans, they’ve just released new nitro widget cans here in Ireland, which the afficionado **yojimbo** assures me are as good as the best draft pint in Dublin. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/12 "2003-12-05T17:44:06Z")
> [@](#): > > And don’t even talk about the nasty, non-nitrogen bottles. Ick. the old fashioned pint bottles? Ahh, the last bastion of the real old-school guinness drinker. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/13 "2003-12-05T17:59:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \* > \*\*the old fashioned pint bottles? > > Ahh, the last bastion of the real old-school guinness drinker. \*\* Possibly. I’m thinking of the Guinness Extra Stout in a bottle. Nasty stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Ronnie\_Woo\_Woo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/34f0e0/32.png) [@Ronnie\_Woo\_Woo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronnie_Woo_Woo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/14 "2003-12-05T20:31:09Z")
Oh man. I still love the Extra Stout in the original bottle. Not a huge fan of the new bottles with the widget. Like someone else said, it is a bit watery. The Extra Stout is an acquired taste, though. I’ll concede that. ---
**Author:** ![Spooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Spooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spooky)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/15 "2003-12-06T00:53:19Z")
My husband sells Guiness and the new twelve packs have a hand hold on the top, but he says it’s really lame and doesn’t work very well. He broke two twelve-packs today while building a display. Seems to me that hand holds on the top are inconvenient if you are buying mutiple packs. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/16 "2003-12-06T01:11:19Z")
I think that **MrTuffPaws** is referring to the handles sometimes found on boxes that are used to carry heavy things, such as computer monitors and CPUs. Those handles consist of two perforated rounded triangles on the side, so you can push them in, and you have a handle on each side. I have also seen boxes of wine that have essentially the same thing, only the flaps are both on the top, making one cardboard handle. A constructed handhold that juts out seems like a bad idea, as it would interfere with stacking, and might be knocked off. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/17 "2003-12-12T11:13:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jjimm \* > As for the cans, they’ve just released new nitro widget cans here in Ireland, which the afficionado **yojimbo** assures me are as good as the best draft pint in Dublin. Well while the new cans aren’t as good as a pint from pubs like Mulligans and The Long Hall they are as tasty as normal pub quality pints. They also come in a nice handy Fridge Pack of 8 cans with a great handle on the box and a nicely designed flap which means you can just put the whole thing in the fridge and take the cans out one by one easily. ---
**Author:** ![Achilles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Achilles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/18 "2003-12-12T12:02:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yojimbo \* > \*\*Well while the new cans aren’t as good as a pint from pubs like Mulligans and The Long Hall \*\* I spent a few hours and a lot of cash in Mulligans (on Poolbeg Street) last night. What a great pint. I think I may go for a lunch time tipple… MMmm. Tipple. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/19 "2003-12-12T12:06:31Z")
Best pint in Dublin, IMO. I had the second-best I’ve ever had last night: in the Cobblestones. [Hey **Achilles** , if you haven’t already, you should check out the [NADS](http://pub75.ezboard.com/bnads) board - SDMB offshoot for Brits and Irish.] ---
**Author:** ![Achilles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Achilles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036/20 "2003-12-12T12:15:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jjimm \* > \*\*Best pint in Dublin, IMO. > > I had the second-best I’ve ever had last night: in the Cobblestones. > > [Hey **Achilles** , if you haven’t already, you should check out the [NADS](http://pub75.ezboard.com/bnads) board - SDMB offshoot for Brits and Irish.] \*\* Sure will. Thx. BTW where is the Cobblestones ? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guinness-wtf-were-you-thinking/217036.md?page=2)