# Guitar rock then. . . and now.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 26, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191 "2003-03-26T02:41:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/41 "2003-03-28T15:52:56Z")

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I think if he doesn’t like Fleetwood Mac, he’ll also not like the Dead. I happen to like both of them, but the point here is to find music to his tastes…

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**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/42 "2003-03-28T18:01:40Z")

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I just remembered another good one - Heart.

I’m not including two of my all time favorite bands on this list (Styx & Journey) for a reason. They’re a little too light and ballad-y for this purpose, although there are definitely certain songs that he’d **love**. I dare any classic rock fan to not want to pump their fists in the air when they hear Journey’s Escape… I double dares ya! 😃

I say look into these 2 bands knowing that they do indeed do some seriously cheezy ballads. If I never hear _Babe_ again it’ll be too soon…

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/43 "2003-03-28T18:13:11Z")

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The much reviled **Styx** actually has some great guitar work. Recommended are _Equinox_ and _The Grand Illusion_. Also, a good place to start for **Yes** is _The Yes Album_. I like early **Scorpions** up thru _Animal Magnetism_ (after which they suck IMO). **Foreigner** ’s got some OK stuff, esp _Double Vision_. Oh, and **Blue Oyster Cult** rules, esp _Agents of Fortune_ and _Cultasaurus Erectus_ although their best-of _Career of Evil_. And the best place to start for **Black Sabbath** would be their best-of _We Sold our Soul for Rock and Roll_.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/44 "2003-03-28T19:13:58Z")

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Hmmm… I’d say _Pieces of Eight_ has better guitar work on it than _Grand Illusion_. But that’s just my long term love affair with the song _Renegade_ talking, I’m sure.

It starts off slow and pretty with these lush, beautiful harmonies but hang onto your hats because pretty soon it kicks in and doesn’t let up until you’re exhausted…

Man, I love that band. Hence my user name.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/45 "2003-03-28T21:49:03Z")

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As for Jimi Hendrix, what I would actually suggest would be the Woodstock album. It’s everything Hendrix played at Woodstock, obviously. (It removes the two songs done by the other guy.)

Honestly, I would get some of the greatest hits collections first. This, of course, depends on the band and whether the collection is any good to begin with. As I mentioned once before, I have a good selection of greatest hits cds instead of individual albums because I’ve found that with most of the bands that’s all you really need. For example, I’m not the biggest Scorpions fan, so that does me fine. However, for other bands, they have enough stuff on the albums that I want to get the whole album instead of just the hits. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and some others, for example.

Actually, I started a somewhat similar thread earlier. I’ll go see if I can dig it up and post a link.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/46 "2003-03-28T21:55:38Z")

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Ah, here it is. Here’s hoping the http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149434&highlight=rock+collection works.

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**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/47 "2003-03-29T07:02:01Z")

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I can’t believe i didn’t mention one of my favorite bands ever, The Black Crowes!

especially the first 3 albums, Shake Your Moneymaker , The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion, and Amorica

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**Author:** ![Mr.Mook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Mr.Mook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Mook)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/48 "2003-03-29T07:55:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jerrybear \*  
> \*\*I just cannot believe no one has mentioned…The Good Ol’ Grateful Dead!!!
> 
> Jerry Garcia could play the old gee-tar as well as anyone. And, Bob Weir is pretty good as well. Phil Lesh does some amazing things on the bass guitar to boot.
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> Try any of their live recordings. There are lots to choose from. Many have been officially released on CD, and just about every concert they ever played can be found on tapes made by people in the audience. \*\*

Woo-Hoo! Finally. People don’t realize that the Dead at the top of their game was a kick ass rock & roll band.

They are the reason I moved to Telluride in 1987 after I saw them here.

Snf. I miss those guys. ☹

Morning Dew, I Need a Miracle, Bertha…All great guitar songs.

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**Author:** ![yawndave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/43a26b/32.png) [@yawndave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawndave)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/49 "2003-03-29T17:53:06Z")

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Shoeless wrote:  
“Good luck finding them, I don’t even know if they are still in print, but any one of the first three Wishbone Ash albums.”

Don’t forget “Live Dates”, and the instrumental album “Noveau Calls”

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**Author:** ![Zoltarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/dc4da7/32.png) [@Zoltarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoltarb)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/50 "2003-03-29T18:36:53Z")

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Ooh! All this hullabaloo, because I said I liked one cheesy hair band song.

Personally, I prefer harder stuff, like Hendrix and Ozzy. But some of these sound pretty good. I’ve always liked Queen. But Rush is evil. I shall never listen to them. So nyah.

Zolty (Biggirl’s son)

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/51 "2003-03-29T20:13:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Zoltarb \*  
> \*\*But Rush is evil. I shall never listen to them. So nyah.
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> Zolty (Biggirl’s son) \*\*

Good on you, son. You’ll go far.

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**Author:** ![Semp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Semp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Semp)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/52 "2003-03-30T01:33:02Z")

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Does Jane’s Addiction fit into the “guitar rock” mold? They _were_… oh, wait, they’re playing in the new Lollapalooza… _are_ a guitar based rock band, but is it enough to get 'em into the club? Hmmm, at the time in the late 80s/early 90s they were seen as the alternativization of metal, and metal, of course, is rock. But to put them in the same family as Styx, as some above would argue… Is guitar rock a genus or a species or a kingdom? Well, as to the OP, if you’re dealing with a teenager, chances are likely he’ll like J’s A. Once he hits, oh, say 23 years of age, he’ll wonder what the deal was all about. But boy, those teeange years are made for Jane’s Addiction.

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**Author:** ![RawkStah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@RawkStah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RawkStah)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/53 "2003-03-30T01:52:03Z")

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Jane’s Addiction: Hell YES! Dave Navarro kicks ass. To quote Beavis, seeing a Red Hot Chili Peppers video, “I’ll be damned! It’s Dave Navarro!”

Jim Heath of The Reverend Horton Heat and Brian Setzer are (relatively) new cats playing the old-style rocknroll. Junior Brown kicks loads of ass, too, but his double-guitar is a regular 'lectric and a pedal steel. He’s ‘country’, but, you know, real God-Given country.

The current incarnation of Rollins Band doesn’t shy away from the ol’ solo. It’s Henry Rollins, backed by the band Mother Superior. I’ve not heard any MS, but they have chops. (Note: if he’s looking for traditional sullen-teenager-guitar-rock, he needs to check out Rollins Band’s excellent “The End of Silence”. Different than the current stuff. Musically, it’s reminiscent of Sabbath.)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Mook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Mr.Mook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Mook)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guitar-rock-then-and-now/164191/54 "2003-03-31T06:47:41Z")

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Neil Young - Live Rust

Now THAT’s guitar!

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