# Gukumatz, a word, please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [December 3, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901 "2012-12-03T21:30:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/21 "2012-12-04T07:59:56Z")

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For the record, it didn’t break up anything on my iPhone. Nor did **Gukumatz’s** wordier example. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/22 "2012-12-04T10:05:23Z")

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The mod is being unreasonable. We shouldn’t have access to large fonts and bright colors if a mod is going to give a warning for it. Both of these guys have participated for a long time and a warning for using the capabilities of the SDMB is petty.

I say that when I am absolutely opposed to crimson and white colors. My own favorite combination is burnt orange and navy.

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> **Gukumatz** : “… or rewrite War & Peace in neon green font.”

Do you know what a strawman is? If you have to exaggerate to make your point, you shouldn’t be giving a warning.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/23 "2012-12-04T12:29:05Z")

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My question would be that if the font was too large for the board’s formatting, why wasn’t it only reduced to a size that would remedy that problem?

Besides, can’t we find a compromise?  
**Oak** wants 7, **Guku** wants 2. Can we settle in the 4-5 range?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/24 "2012-12-04T12:52:47Z")

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I agree with Zoe. Are there circumstances under which use of the 7-point font is appropriate? If not, the board shouldn’t allow it. If so, this seems to me like about as appropriate a circumstance as possible.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/25 "2012-12-04T13:47:49Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> The mod is being unreasonable. We shouldn’t have access to large fonts and bright colors if a mod is going to give a warning for it.  
> [snip]  
> Do you know what a strawman is? If you have to exaggerate to make your point, you shouldn’t be giving a warning.

And you should learn what a warning is in this context.

And while there clearly wasn’t anything wrong with Oakminster’s large “go tide”, he also shouldn’t get so clearly riled up about getting the piss taken out in a thread designed for fans to poke fun at each other. He should really change his name to Balsaminster if he’s going to be so thin-skinned about shit like this.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/26 "2012-12-04T14:30:38Z")

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> [@boomerwang](#):
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> Is ‘‘nary a peep’’ a new meme?

I don’t know, but I like it as a username!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/27 "2012-12-04T14:48:50Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> Yes, the moderation was rather heavy-handed and arbitrary. But your implication that the moderators are obligated to defend each of their actions by citing title, chapter and line number from the rules is equally ridiculous. In small communities, deferring to the good judgement of those in authority rather than compiling an exhaustive set of rules, limits and justifications for every possible situation is vastly more efficient.

First, they came for the 7-point Red Font posters…

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/28 "2012-12-04T15:09:03Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> 1)Don’t be a jerk.  
> 2)Don’t be a jerk.  
> 3)Don’t be a jerk.

1. Ridiculous
2. Ridiculous
3. Ridiculous

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> The exact same thing has been posted in several other threads in that very forum, with nary a peep from more reasonable mods. If you are now making up a brand new “No large fonts on the SDMB” rule, you need to publicize it, and enforce it consistently.
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> For the record, it looked like this.
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> That’s simply not true, as your post contains seven words, while the large colorful part of mine contained only two. For the true record, it looked more like:
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> ROLL TIDE

I don’t see the problem. It didn’t mess anything up on my phone.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/29 "2012-12-04T15:14:54Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t see the problem. It didn’t mess anything up on my phone.

Is that the new way of bragging that you have the iPhone 5? 😃

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/30 "2012-12-04T15:38:45Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Is that the new way of bragging that you have the iPhone 5? 😃

I’m practically a Luddite. I have a 4s.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/31 "2012-12-04T16:19:55Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> And you should learn what a warning is in this context.
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> And while there clearly wasn’t anything wrong with Oakminster’s large “go tide”, he also shouldn’t get so clearly riled up about getting the piss taken out in a thread designed for fans to poke fun at each other. He should really change his name to Balsaminster if he’s going to be so thin-skinned about shit like this.

Come on. I got a mod note many years ago for a smilie that was deemed inappropriate for the forum I was posting in. I had the same angst at the time but on reflection I guess they can’t limit what is available to certain parts of the message board.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/32 "2012-12-04T17:32:12Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Come on. I got a mod note many years ago for a smilie that was deemed inappropriate for the forum I was posting in. I had the same angst at the time but on reflection I guess they can’t limit what is available to certain parts of the message board.

IS THIS TRUE??? If so, it changes _everything_! Wait…no, it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/33 "2012-12-04T17:37:51Z")

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I hate huge fonts, they’re completely obnoxious. However, rather than moderating their use on a case by case basis, why not simply reduce the maximum allowed size to e.g. 4? It’s trivial to do, and would prevent issues like this from arising in the future. Is there any reason the max is set at 7 apart from the fact that it’s the default setting?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/34 "2012-12-04T17:54:56Z")

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Update: I was misremembering the options available for the size tags, it turns out you can’t actually limit the size range without installing a hack. The only option is to disable the size tag completely.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/35 "2012-12-04T18:00:12Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Update: I was misremembering the options available for the size tags, it turns out you can’t actually limit the size range without installing a hack. The only option is to disable the size tag completely.

And if people like the OP continue to abuse the privilege of having access to larger fonts, the mods will be forced to take them away from us. It’s the only option!

What’s next, posters start abusing the **bold** function!!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/36 "2012-12-04T19:34:03Z")

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There is a[vBulletin for mobile](http://www.vbulletin.com/mobile/) devices in VB 5.

It would probably prevent this wanton, out of control, use of unacceptable font sizes from overwhelming the smaller displays of mobile devices.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/37 "2012-12-05T02:14:33Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> IS THIS TRUE??? If so, it changes _everything_! Wait…no, it doesn’t.

It may- if you tried to understand the post rather than trying to be formulating a witty response.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/38 "2012-12-05T02:31:36Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Come on. I got a mod note many years ago for a smilie that was deemed inappropriate for the forum I was posting in. I had the same angst at the time but on reflection I guess they can’t limit what is available to certain parts of the message board.

I remember when we first acquired the :dubious: smilie, it was perceived as the non-verbal equivalent of calling someone a liar and that it wasn’t to be used in places and situations where calling someone a liar wouldn’t have been acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/39 "2012-12-05T03:27:30Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I remember when we first acquired the :dubious: smilie, it was perceived as the non-verbal equivalent of calling someone a liar and that it wasn’t to be used in places and situations where calling someone a liar wouldn’t have been acceptable.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/40 "2012-12-05T04:04:03Z")

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I remember when capital letters were first allowed, and few of us dared to use even one lest we be banned for shouting unnecessarily.

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