# Gukumatz, a word, please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [December 3, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901 "2012-12-03T21:30:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/61 "2012-12-05T16:34:14Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I also don’t agree with the OP’s claim that his alleged infraction lessened the mod action taken concerning **Door’s** post.

Then you are disagreeing with reality because that is the exact reason he gave for issueing a note instead of a warning.

Bolding mine.

> [@Who Do You Hate Less- Notre Dame or Alabama?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-do-you-hate-less-notre-dame-or-alabama/642862/15):
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> You’ve been here long enough to know better than this, **Doors**. Don’t do it again.
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> **Only reason this isn’t a Warning is that I found the Huge Red Font obnoxious myself.** Only I can actually do something about it. 😛
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> - Gukumatz,  
> Game Room Moderator

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/62 "2012-12-05T16:46:21Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> And notice that there is no “circle the wagons” in this thread where other mods come in and defend the action.

And you just lost the thread. “Circling the wagons” is one of those arguments that is an immediate loss in my book. So is “butthurt”. (Sorry, **Oakminster**.)

> [@Colibri](#):
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> While I don’t know about the options myself, upthread **Giraffe** says the only option would be to eliminate all size tags. I personally wouldn’t mind eliminated the large fonts, but the small ones are useful for footnotes etc.

## I, personally, use regular sized font for footnotes, because I like to actually be able to read footnotes. I offset them with asterisks or superscript numbers and put them at the bottom of the thread like this.\*

- See, it’s obvious it’s a footnote, but it’s legible.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/63 "2012-12-05T18:24:57Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> And you just lost the thread. “Circling the wagons” is one of those arguments that is an immediate loss in my book. So is “butthurt”. (Sorry, **Oakminster**.)

Pfft. You lose the thread for using the phrase “you just lost the thread”.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/64 "2012-12-05T18:36:14Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> And, as usual, your contribution is worthless, condescending, and unprofessional. Par for the course. Guess certain mods are still butthurt about things that happened long ago, huh?

Your OP was distilled butthurt.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/65 "2012-12-05T18:59:52Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Your OP was distilled butthurt.

I ain’t drinkin’ any of that!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/66 "2012-12-05T20:07:37Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Speaking for myself I haven’t commented because **Oakminster’s** complaint is so absurdly trivial it hardly warrants a response.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> And, as usual, your contribution is worthless, condescending, and unprofessional. Par for the course. Guess certain mods are still butthurt about things that happened long ago, huh?

And the dream of a forum where posters and staff could calmly discuss their differences with civility and respect is finally realized.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/67 "2012-12-05T20:12:38Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> And the dream of a forum where posters and staff could calmly discuss their differences with civility and respect is finally realized.

Please note that I did not take the first shot.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/68 "2012-12-05T21:10:00Z")

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“But Mom, he put a finger on my side of the bench first!! Moooooooom!”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/69 "2012-12-05T21:17:34Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Please note that I did not take the first shot.

You can be sure we will all give that every consideration it is due.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/70 "2012-12-06T00:39:24Z")

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This has degenerated into a Bill Cosby routine.

“Will you stop TOUCHING me!?!?!”

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/71 "2012-12-06T02:39:10Z")

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It would be really nice if a Moderator or Admin could come in and just spell out when or if using the largest font size available is allowed.

Oakminster posted just two words in this large font, and evidently that was too much. So, is one word ok? How about even just one letter?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/72 "2012-12-06T03:14:06Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> It would be really nice if a Moderator or Admin could come in and just spell out when or if using the largest font size available is allowed.
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> Oakminster posted just two words in this large font, and evidently that was too much. So, is one word ok? How about even just one letter?

No such policy needs to be spelled out. **Oakminster** didn’t receive a warning, or even a mod note. All that happened was that a moderator reduced the size of the font he used. And that may happen again in cases where a moderator decides that the font size was a problem. I’m afraid that people will just have to live with this vast uncertainty.😉

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/73 "2012-12-06T03:21:40Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> No such policy needs to be spelled out. **Oakminster** didn’t receive a warning, or even a mod note. All that happened was that a moderator reduced the size of the font he used. And that may happen again in cases where a moderator decides that the font size was a problem. I’m afraid that people will just have to live with this vast uncertainty.😉

Fair enough, I suppose. Thanks for addressing my question.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/74 "2012-12-06T03:30:42Z")

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Come to the MMP, you can use obnoxious fonts, underlines, italics, and sizing. In fact we encourage it. 😉

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/75 "2012-12-06T03:38:19Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I hate huge fonts, they’re completely obnoxious. However, rather than moderating their use on a case by case basis, why not simply reduce the maximum allowed size to e.g. 4? It’s trivial to do, and would prevent issues like this from arising in the future. Is there any reason the max is set at 7 apart from the fact that it’s the default setting?

Not fair. Then we couldn’t wish HAPPY BIRTHDAY appropriately in the **MMP**. Bad call sir 😛

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/76 "2012-12-06T03:40:18Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I personally wouldn’t mind eliminated the large fonts, but the small ones are useful for footnotes etc.

What’s with this talk of smaller fonts? Is something broken for me, because I can’t use a font smaller than the default (what you’re reading now) without resorting to the [sub] tag workaround.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/77 "2012-12-06T03:44:01Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> What’s with this talk of smaller fonts? Is something broken for me, because I can’t use a font smaller than the default (what you’re reading now) without resorting to the [sub] tag workaround.

if you quote a post it gives you the option next to font to change the size. 1 is the smallest size.  
sizes:  
1  
2  
3  
4  
5  
6  
7

screen shot example  
[![](https://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/asahlin2/fontsizes.jpg) ](https://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/asahlin2/fontsizes.jpg)

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/78 "2012-12-06T03:48:08Z")

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Exactly. Unless something is really screwy on my end, there _are_ no smaller sizes. [sub](Unless you do this, which isn’t really a smaller “font”)[/sub]

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/79 "2012-12-06T04:22:38Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Exactly. Unless something is really screwy on my end, there _are_ no smaller sizes. [sub](Unless you do this, which isn’t really a smaller “font”)[/sub]

If the 1,2,3… etc in April’s post look like the same size to you, something is screwy.

On a completely off-topic tangent: April, your system tray takes up half the size of your screen! Holy moly!!!

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gukumatz-a-word-please/642901/80 "2012-12-06T04:46:29Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> If the 1,2,3… etc in April’s post look like the same size to you, something is screwy.
> 
> On a completely off-topic tangent: April, your system tray takes up half the size of your screen! Holy moly!!!

I have a lot of apps. The sad part is, I use them all, mostly for work since I work from home.

/thread hijack over 🙂

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