# Gulf War 3 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 8, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100 "2020-01-08T01:13:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/1 "2020-01-08T01:13:55Z")
Since the ‘assassination’ has now moved to open war, I have asked and received permission to open up a Gulf War 3\* ‘omnibus’ thread. Reports here: [https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1214692125557895168?s=19](https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1214692125557895168?s=19) Assassination thread here: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=887808](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=887808) \*Calling it GW3 because we may not have all the belligerents officially involved yet. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/2 "2020-01-08T01:32:41Z")
Trump is planning to address the nation sometime tonight. I am sure his team’s coordination with Congress to deal with War Powers Act rules will be seamless. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/3 "2020-01-08T01:33:44Z")
Imagine I have embedded a comic of a dog drinking coffee in a burning room. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/4 "2020-01-08T01:40:24Z")
Now they have decided that it just may be better if Trump didn’t address the nation according to the Press Secretary, according to Josh Dawsey of WaPo: > > > Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/5 "2020-01-08T01:43:49Z")
I can’t see how Trump addressing the nation would _help_. Then again, I can’t see how having Trump at the helm would help. I wonder who in Washington is starting to realize that they may be in over their heads. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/6 "2020-01-08T01:45:35Z")
Trump will respond – it’s inevitable. As I’ve said, he has to. He can’t look weak. This is his Gulf of Tonkin moment. We’re at the “holy shit” stage now. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/7 "2020-01-08T01:46:27Z")
We can all agree that Donald Trump owns every life lost on both sides from this right? Like I’m assuming none of the Trumpists and Trumpists-lite on this board will claim otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/8 "2020-01-08T01:50:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now they have decided that it just may be better if Trump didn’t address the nation according to the Press Secretary, according to Josh Dawsey of WaPo: > > [https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1214721756474355713?s=19](https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1214721756474355713?s=19) Better go to Costco to get a pack of TP. There’s gonna be lots of twitterreah tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/9 "2020-01-08T01:54:55Z")
Israel wants no part of this. NATO wants no part of it. Russia and China are likely to be supporting Iran, quietly or openly. I remember when Trump gave one of his more coherent speeches prior to the election. He said “America First doesn’t mean America Alone.” It appears it does. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/10 "2020-01-08T02:06:28Z")
Although Israel already used the F-35 first, it would still mark something of an “initiation” for the USAF to use F-35s, and this might just be it - unless there has been some American F-35 mission already in Syria that wasn’t publicized. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/11 "2020-01-08T02:06:38Z")
Do we know if the missile attacks resulted in casualties? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/12 "2020-01-08T02:09:09Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Do we know if the missile attacks resulted in casualties? Not yet, but our own military has said that the strikes targeted housing units on the air bases. So yes, good chance there are casualties. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/13 "2020-01-08T02:10:06Z")
Sounds like Iran claimed 30 Americans killed, and DoD is saying zero (so far). Twitter says Iraqis were killed, but haven’t seen a number. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/14 "2020-01-08T02:23:48Z")
30 killed Americans would be HUGE news by now, so it’s doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/15 "2020-01-08T02:47:43Z")
> [@our dear president](#): > > All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far! I will be making a statement tomorrow morning. > jsut wanted everyone to know that “all is well” … ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/16 "2020-01-08T02:52:43Z")
He might take a hit in the polls if it turns out that American servicemen died… ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/17 "2020-01-08T02:59:57Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > 30 killed Americans would be HUGE news by now, so it’s doubtful. Just a few minutes ago on Cuomo’s CNN show they were saying the missiles seemed to be intentionally targeted at unpopulated areas, at least unpopulated by Americans. Don’t know about Iraqi casualties. The pundits seemed to think this was Iran’s way of retaliating without wanting to escalate further. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/18 "2020-01-08T03:20:29Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > He might take a hit in the polls if it turns out that American servicemen died… Really??? I hope you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/19 "2020-01-08T03:22:30Z")
Basically doing what Pakistan did with India last year, hit an open area inside a base? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100/20 "2020-01-08T03:34:32Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > He might take a hit in the polls if it turns out that American servicemen died… Not necessarily; it depends on perceptions. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gulf-war-3-thread/846100.md?page=2)