# Gun Control: Bring it! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629 "2008-12-04T03:50:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![T\_SQUARE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@T\_SQUARE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_SQUARE)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/41 "2008-12-04T10:05:09Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/42 "2008-12-04T10:33:21Z")
Economy going to shit, home reposessions rising massively, government utterly lacking in financial competence, two foreign wars draining the public purse… … and y’all are most worried about nastly ol’ Obama taking away your [del]penis substitutes[/del] shooters? And yet people still wonder why America is sinking slowly into the mire. So yeah, you fight for yer rights to shoot each other… at the rate you’re going it’s all you’ll have left before too long. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/43 "2008-12-04T10:38:48Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > Economy going to shit, home reposessions rising massively, government utterly lacking in financial competence, two foreign wars draining the public purse… > > … and y’all are most worried about nastly ol’ Obama taking away your [del]penis substitutes[/del] shooters? > > And yet people still wonder why America is sinking slowly into the mire. > > So yeah, you fight for yer rights to shoot each other… at the rate you’re going it’s all you’ll have left before too long. Exactly. I recall before the election various pro-gun people talking about how they opposed Obama because of guns, and that guns overrode everything else. I’m a militant atheist, and plenty of people have called me names like “fanatic” or “bigoted” or “irrational” because of it. But you know what ? I voted for Obama, despite him being a believer, because I am capable of caring about more than one issue at a time. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/44 "2008-12-04T11:21:09Z")
As best as I can tell, the OP is pointing to a bunch of threads on the Dope as evidence that Obama’s coming to take people’s guns away. 'Nuff said. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/45 "2008-12-04T11:22:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Exactly. I recall before the election various pro-gun people talking about how they opposed Obama because of guns, and that guns overrode everything else. > > I’m a militant atheist, and plenty of people have called me names like “fanatic” or “bigoted” or “irrational” because of it. But you know what ? I voted for Obama, despite him being a believer, because I am capable of caring about more than one issue at a time. And didn’t have an atheist to vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/46 "2008-12-04T11:42:26Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > And didn’t have an atheist to vote for. And I could have chosen to vote for no one. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/47 "2008-12-04T11:51:27Z")
Okay, that’s it: I’m gonna build my own damn gun; one that I’ve wanted for years. Get ready for the advent of the fully-automatic, belt-fed, water-cooled, swiveled mounted, Gatling barreled 8 gauge shotgun. Come take that one away from me, you flea flicking sissies. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/48 "2008-12-04T12:04:11Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Exactly. I recall before the election various pro-gun people talking about how they opposed Obama because of guns, and that guns overrode everything else. I assume I’m one of the people you’re talking about. The reason I don’t trust him isn’t that he supports gun control laws, it’s that he supports **bad** gun control laws. Anyone who supports the reintroduction of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, a law that targets cosmetic features of a category of weapons that are rarely used to commit crimes, is either an idiot or willing to cater to idiots at the expense of innocent people’s rights. Either of those is unacceptable in a politician. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/49 "2008-12-04T12:09:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What would Jesus pack? I mean, a man of his caliber… He explicitly told his followers to buy swords. Were swords commonly carried by civilians back then or were they military weapons? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/50 "2008-12-04T13:02:58Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > “Why do people call us ‘paranoid gun nuts’?” > > - posts three-page, wide-eyed, paranoid rant about guns and calls gun control advocates “jackals” \* Not to mention the entire tone of the OP is one begging for a fight. It’s actually amusing. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/51 "2008-12-04T13:04:50Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Not to mention the entire tone of the OP is one begging for a fight. Nuh, it’s biscuit game. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/52 "2008-12-04T13:13:21Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > I assume I’m one of the people you’re talking about. The reason I don’t trust him isn’t that he supports gun control laws, it’s that he supports **bad** gun control laws. Anyone who supports the reintroduction of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, a law that targets cosmetic features of a category of weapons that are rarely used to commit crimes, is either an idiot or willing to cater to idiots at the expense of innocent people’s rights. Either of those is unacceptable in a politician. And the choice you had was between Obama or McCain, not Obama and some ideal. Are you going to claim that McCain wasn’t “willing to cater to idiots at the expense of innocent people’s rights” ? Gun rights are a trivial issue compared to the other problems facing this country. They aren’t going to be gotten rid of by Obama or anyone else; there’s too many, the gun lobby is too powerful, and Americans too collectively stupid and self destructive. They’ll be all over indefinitely, and all of significance they’ll ever do is increase the death rate and empower the thugs. And the gun lovers will keep sacrificing people’s lives and prosperity and civil rights on the altar of guns, patting themselves on the back the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/53 "2008-12-04T13:56:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Gun rights are a trivial issue compared to the other problems facing this country. They aren’t going to be gotten rid of by Obama or anyone else; there’s too many, the gun lobby is too powerful, and Americans too collectively stupid and self destructive. They’ll be all over indefinitely, and all of significance they’ll ever do is increase the death rate and empower the thugs. And the gun lovers will keep sacrificing people’s lives and prosperity and civil rights on the altar of guns, patting themselves on the back the whole time. I love being in both camps–I don’t think Obama’s going to do anything terribly effective with regard to gun bans (the fact the assault weapons ban doesn’t actually ban anything but cosmetic features is one of the reasons I don’t much care about it–I can still get essentially the same weapon if I want it, just with a wood finish.) and I felt and feel that gun ownership, while an important issue, is not THE issue. So yeah, pro-gun-rights, Obama-voting Independent here. Pennsylvania seems to breed a lot of us. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/54 "2008-12-04T14:07:13Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > Maybe I mis-interpreted: Nah. **Una Person** busted you. You’re here doing your usual disingenuous troll routine that you do in every gun-related thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/55 "2008-12-04T14:21:48Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I’m not “insinuating” it; I’m outright saying that’s what gun ownership is largely about. Thugs and paranoids and fanatics and fools. > > Of course; like a typical gun rights supporter, the deaths of all the people who die because America is awash in guns means nothing to you compared to your burning need to own a gun without restrictions or rules or even training. You’d elect a genocidal dictator if he promised you your guns. No morality; no compassion; no common sense; no self preservation; just gun worship. A one dimensional issue upheld by one dimensional people. Your Bolshevik, Stalinist, and Maoist forefathers were great believers in guns. They killed 100 million people. Every time you point the finger at other people and shout “fanatics and murderers!” you have three fingers pointing at yourself. You are the heir to a century of systematic murder, you commie fuck; I look forward to the day when your twisted kind become historical curiosities for school children to shake their heads and wonder at. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/56 "2008-12-04T14:35:17Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > And when it comes around, _again_, I’ll be right back here. Waiting, with a smile on my face. > > Blink, motherfucker. > > I dare ya. :rolleyes: This kind of thing sounds insane. I know it’s Pit hyperbole. Still, when people talk about gun nuttery, they usually mean this kind of thing, and you’re only talking about NRA membership and gun control advocacy here, not shooting federal agents! Overall I’m agnotic on this issue: I’m probably like most people in that I think people have the right to have guns, but get weirded out by this kind of rhetoric and by the NRA in general. I’m fine with sensible restrictions and my limited background here leads me to believe the AWB is not sensible - not because it’s unreasonably restrictive but because the decisions about what is and is not an assault weapon were (as someone else said) “cosmetic” and, I guess, were mostly PR calls made by people who didn’t know much about guns and were playing to parts of the public that didn’t know either. That’s not how laws should work. Goes without saying that I don’t see the passion on this issue. I’m not sure what Obama’s planning to do; his comment on Heller was noncommital. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/57 "2008-12-04T14:56:13Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Your Bolshevik, Stalinist, and Maoist forefathers were great believers in guns. They killed 100 million people. Every time you point the finger at other people and shout “fanatics and murderers!” you have three fingers pointing at yourself. You are the heir to a century of systematic murder, you commie fuck; I look forward to the day when your twisted kind become historical curiosities for school children to shake their heads and wonder at. Trenchant and forcefully put, and would be even more devastating if **Der Trihs** were actually a Communist. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/58 "2008-12-04T14:57:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Trenchant and forcefully put, and would be even more devastating if **Der Trihs** were actually a Communist. He’s an avowed leftist. Also, it’s clear you’ve not paid attention to his name. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/59 "2008-12-04T15:00:18Z")
He masturbated while writing the OP, didn’t he? When Obama comes for your guns, just keep shooting till the ammo runs out. I’m sure it’ll make you feel a lot better. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629/60 "2008-12-04T15:01:06Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > He’s an avowed leftist. Also, it’s clear you’ve not paid attention to his name. I thought it just meant that he was on a sports scholarship, but not eligible to play this year. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-control-bring-it/475629.md?page=4)