Gun Control doesn't work... Except for when it does

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@Eliahna

The 4+ number that i keep seeing cited comes from a study co-authored by Simon Chapman.
Australia's 1996 gun law reforms: faster falls in firearm deaths, firearm suicides, and a decade without mass shootings - PMC
If you redefine his definition of mass shootings to 2+, we’ve had 1 in 16 years but I don’t know what that does to the figure in the 18 years prior to 1996; presumably it will be 13 or greater.

Other countries have had post-gun control massacres. That doesn’t mean their laws haven’t reduced the incidence of gun massacres. Also, Australia’s laws are often referred to as “strictest in the world”. If another country’s separate, different and more permissive gun control laws don’t work, that doesn’t invalidate the Australian experience.

I agree, gun massacres are rare and it’s hard to draw meaningful statistics from a dearth of events. Still, despite our fondness for American culture, our saturation with American media, our ever more connected world where mass killers are made famous as anti-heroes, we haven’t had a mass shooting event in over 10 years. These events are happening less frequently when we’ve only made copycat shootings ever more attractive in the ensuing years. That seemingly defies logic unless you give credit to the laws that banned and severely restricted the guns that were typically used in mass shootings prior to 1996.

So really what you are saying is you are just working on a “hunch” We know that it didn’t have effect on “normal” gun crime due to several studies that are newer than your cite.

Sorry I could not find a free version of this.

Australian firearms legislation and unintentional firearm deaths a theoretical explanation for the absence of decline following the 1996 gun laws Public Health, Samara McPhedran, Jeanine Baker, Public Health, Volume 122, Issue 3

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Gun Laws and Sudden Death: Did the Australian Firearms Legislation of 1996 Make a Difference?, Dr. Jeanine Baker and Dr. Samara McPhedran, British Journal of Criminology, November 2006.

Examination of the long-term trends indicated that the only category of sudden death
that may have been influenced by the introduction of the NFA was firearm suicide.

As for the mass killings I am very very happy Australia hasn’t suffered any in a while and that is great news but to claim it was all even part due to the NFA is just not acceptable as a debate point without some form of cite.

You did still have gang killings…more than 3 decades of spree killings post NFA

Unfortunatly we have a much worse problem with gangs and murder here in the US but if you avoid violent felons and don’t sell or buy drugs your risk of murder is tiny.

I would appricate any cite that shows any correlation between the number of legal firearms owned and the murder rate or spree murder rate.