# Gun folks look (anti's stay away!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 25, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824 "2005-02-25T04:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/1 "2005-02-25T04:11:21Z")
Guess who is back! [www.calicolightweaponsystems.com](http://www.calicolightweaponsystems.com), they are offering 9mm and .22 in long gun and pistol models holding either 50 or 100 rounds in those snappy helical magazines. I have absolutely no use for one but I sure want a .22 pistol! Unclviny ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/2 "2005-02-25T08:11:27Z")
I’m pretty anti, but… [homer] mmmmm… calico… [/homer] One of those would look nice next to my SKS and M1 carbine ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/3 "2005-02-25T08:42:25Z")
Whew. They sure are ugly. They used to make the .22 in a sporter configuration that didn’t look too bad. Nevermind, I just googled it and it’s uglier than I remembered. Still, the magazine is a nice piece of work. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/4 "2005-02-25T17:24:46Z")
IIRC G. I. Joe’s was selling their .22 rifles for ~$250.00 before the ban. I wonder what they go for now. And yeah, I want one too, but I go for weird and unusual stuff, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/5 "2005-02-25T18:54:41Z")
I have absolutely no use for one , but what the hell. A Calico and a bunch of soup cans looks like a fun way to burn up and afternoon. If only I didn’t live in New York. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/6 "2005-02-25T19:08:48Z")
IwantitIwantitIwantitIwantitIwantit! 😃 Honey…about my birthday… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/7 "2005-02-25T19:52:03Z")
How do they deal with barrell heat? ---
**Author:** ![RandomLetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@RandomLetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandomLetters)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/8 "2005-02-25T20:03:03Z")
So that is the oddball gun on the ;j PFO logo. I was wondering what weapon that was. ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/9 "2005-02-26T02:30:56Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > How do they deal with barrell heat? Probably the same way any .22 semiauto does. Shoot for a while and let that sucker cool down for a bit. I normally shoot my Mk.II until it gets too hot, then switch to something else for a while. That’s another benefit to having a few guns to choose from. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/10 "2005-02-26T02:43:03Z")
Is the caliber suited for home defense, or are these simply target shooting guns? ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/11 "2005-02-26T02:48:36Z")
Yeah, they offer a 9mm model. 9mm is considered by most to be an adequate caliber for defense. ---
**Author:** ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/12 "2005-02-26T09:01:32Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Is the caliber suited for home defense, or are these simply target shooting guns? I don’t know if you want to have 100 bullets zinging around your home…Might make your house a bit messy. And the car in the garage, and your neighbors house… I think some of the threads related to that came down to arguments of speed (revolver next to bed vs. rifle in closet) and power (.22 not enough, hunting rifles too much, any shotgun about right). But in the end I think it rests more on what weapon you know how to use, and the mental state to use it. The best protection for your home is probably a burglar alarm with a security service and a large dog. Preventative solutions instead of treatment. -Tcat ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/13 "2005-02-26T09:09:45Z")
> [@Tomcat](#): > > I don’t know if you want to have 100 bullets zinging around your home…Might make your house a bit messy. And the car in the garage, and your neighbors house… If you used different types of ammo would that cut down on penetration? I know, for instance, that blended metal bullets aren’t supposed to go through walls. > [@Tomcat](#): > > I think some of the threads related to that came down to arguments of speed (revolver next to bed vs. rifle in closet) and power (.22 not enough, hunting rifles too much, any shotgun about right). What’s the kinetic energy of a .22 slug versus a 9mm? > [@Tomcat](#): > > But in the end I think it rests more on what weapon you know how to use, and the mental state to use it. I’ve seen a few of those threads; most people seemed to agree that a shotgun would make an effective item for home defense. > [@Tomcat](#): > > The best protection for your home is probably a burglar alarm with a security service and a large dog. Preventative solutions instead of treatment. A good point. I’m a poor grad student right now, but I’d like to pick up a long gun and/or handgun for some target shooting. Probably a shotgun too for clay pigeons. 100 round magazines just look like fun for shooting, less reloading and hassle. They also seemed ideal for home defense, a semi-auto pistol with 100 rounds would give you, I’d think, a decent chance at scoring a hit (or two) on a target. I haven’t considered home defense all that well, but I’m interested in scratching the surface. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/14 "2005-02-26T14:33:17Z")
> [@](#): > > a semi-auto pistol with 100 rounds would give you, I’d think, a decent chance at scoring **a hit (or two)** on a target. If you’re blindfolded, and dizzy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BoringDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BoringDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoringDad)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/15 "2005-02-26T15:23:58Z")
> [@unclviny](#): > > Guess who is back! [www.calicolightweaponsystems.com](http://www.calicolightweaponsystems.com), So… why were they gone? The assault rifle ban? ---
**Author:** ![eno801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@eno801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eno801)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/16 "2005-02-26T17:52:56Z")
cool maybe now i can get some mags for .22 calico handgun. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/17 "2005-02-26T19:53:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > If you’re blindfolded, and dizzy. 😃 Or if you’re not too good a shot and need to make sure you’ve got more than six rounds. ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/18 "2005-02-26T19:57:02Z")
Weren’t they notorious jammers in large part due to the odd magazine? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/19 "2005-02-26T21:33:25Z")
> [@Machetero](#): > > Weren’t they notorious jammers in large part due to the odd magazine? That’s actually something that I wondered about, even though I’m not particuarly up on gun factoids. An oddly shaped magazine with 100 rounds must be tough to engineer correctly. No? ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824/20 "2005-02-26T21:37:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Gun folks look (anti’s stay away!) Fine, I know when I’m not wanted. ☹ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-folks-look-antis-stay-away/291824.md?page=2)