# Gun Grabbers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014 "2013-09-16T23:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/221 "2013-09-18T22:00:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, he answered it - by acknowledging that all he’s been doing is massaging his laptop and fantasizing about manhood. Yep, you’re right; I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/222 "2013-09-18T23:13:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > My name is not Sammy Hall. > > And this, too, fails to address any actual argument. > > As a general proposition, when someone’s response to a logical argument is invective, the reader is entitled to conclude the invective is intended to distract from the complete inability to counter those logical arguments. Knock yourself out. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/223 "2013-09-19T02:27:36Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > Knock yourself out. Running headfirst into a brick wall might do it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/224 "2013-09-19T03:51:07Z")
> [@A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](#): > > Thanks for letting me know that was funny. Your ignorant response was much funnier, that is true. Just in case the rest went over your head, I don’t believe you stand on a wall nor do you protect anyone from any thing. I think you’re a wanna be hero with fantasies and delusions that allow you to cope with your anxiety. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/225 "2013-09-19T14:06:46Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > As you have been told many times before, your, your friends’, and the NRA’s knee-jerk insistence that anybody be able to carry any gun anywhere in any manner they please is doing more to destroy the Second Amendment than all the Nancy Pelosis in the world by making people like me, who like guns but support reasonable regulation, turn against you because you are plainly insane and should not be allowed near guns. +1 The refusal of people like the OP to accept reasonable restrictions at the national level on gun ownership is indeed ruining it for the rest of us, at least in some states like New York and California. New York has restrictive gun laws because of illegal imports from states like Virginia and the Carolinas where guns are far too available. Idiots who are stockpiling ammunition are inconveniencing the rest of us who go and buy a box or two only when they need it. The shelves at my local Walmart are nearly bereft of ammunition because of tiny-penis morons like the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/226 "2013-09-19T14:33:42Z")
Is the OP aware that the Navy Yard was full of armed personnel? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/227 "2013-09-19T14:40:56Z")
> [@A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](#): > > I can’t speak for the sheep, but I think they underestimate those of us who are armed and ready to defend ourselves from enemies both foreign and domestic. I’m well aware that the gun fetishists are thugs and wannabee Brownshirts. I’m sure you’d love to kick down my door and kill me. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/228 "2013-09-19T14:41:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Is the OP aware that the Navy Yard was full of armed personnel? For the Nth time, military personnel on army bases is not armed. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/229 "2013-09-19T14:43:39Z")
It’s not an Army base. The first clue is in the name. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/230 "2013-09-19T14:46:50Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > For the Nth time, military personnel on army bases is not armed. Perhaps you didn’t hear that Alexis shot and killed a guard and took his handgun. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/231 "2013-09-19T15:50:18Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Perhaps you didn’t hear that Alexis shot and killed a guard and took his handgun. Yeah, well that guy was clearly some liberal pussy poseur. No true NRA Good Guy with a GunTM would be caught so unawares. Real Triple G’s - of the kind that populate non-gun-free-zones - are preternaturally gifted with the cognitive and motor skills needed to always reliably discern any threat and get the drop on them. Those that accidentally leave their guns in the public restroom or shoot a student or fire a round into their toe or become angry enough to draw and fire their weapon inappropriately clearly were not Triple G’s to begin with. It’s simple. Just keep weapons out of the hands of non-Triple-G’s, and the rest will stand with chest out, chin jutted, bad guy down while we cower on the floor behind them. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/232 "2013-09-19T16:12:31Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > +1 > > The refusal of people like the OP to accept reasonable restrictions… I doubt you even know what those are. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/233 "2013-09-19T16:23:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s not an Army base. The first clue is in the name. Military personnel off army bases are not armed either. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/234 "2013-09-19T16:46:14Z")
Then where \*do \*you find Good Guys with Guns? Starbucks? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/235 "2013-09-19T16:52:24Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Military personnel off army bases are not armed either. There were armed guards at the Navy Yard. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/236 "2013-09-19T17:27:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > There were armed guards at the Navy Yard. Yes, there were. But that is not what you claimed. You claimed that it “Navy Yard was full of armed personnel”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/237 "2013-09-19T18:01:34Z")
In what way do you believe those statements are incompatible? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/238 "2013-09-19T18:04:13Z")
If it was “full” of armed personnel, there would have been no _room_ for another armed person! Simple, really. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/239 "2013-09-19T18:05:53Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In what way do you believe those statements are incompatible? One statement implies that because it is a military installation, the “personnel” on it is armed. The other says that there are armed guards present somewhere on the installation. The federal building in downtown Chicago has two armed policemen in the lobby. It is not “full of armed personnel”. Hope this example makes it clearer for you. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014/240 "2013-09-19T19:46:48Z")
Are you under the impression that there were only two armed guards there, then? It may be true for all I know. It just seems rather unlikely. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-grabbers/669014.md?page=13)