# Gun question in GQ **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173 "2011-09-13T17:37:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/61 "2011-09-14T03:39:27Z")
I admit, I would like to know why **pkbites** would like to take a gun to NYC. But if he does not wish to share his reasoning, I understand. We do not have to share all our lives with the message board. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/62 "2011-09-14T03:47:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > This is kind of sad. Seems like you really don’t have any friends (by which I mean “real-life friends”). Ever examine why that could be? I’m uncertain why the worries of a concern troll should be meaningful to me. Regardless, what in the world makes you think that you or your ilk would ever be my friend? ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/63 "2011-09-14T03:50:07Z")
Instead of meeting at the Museum of Science and Industry, could you please meet at the Field Museum instead? Your confrontation would be so much more epic with a woolly mammoth in the background. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/64 "2011-09-14T03:53:21Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I admit, I would like to know why **pkbites** would like to take a gun to NYC. But if he does not wish to share his reasoning, I understand. We do not have to share all our lives with the message board. He’s a police officer. He is allowed to carry anywhere in the U.S. though there are some restrictions. [Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act) Most agencies require or encourage officers to carry at all times. What I’m not clear on is if he retains police powers when out of his home state. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/65 "2011-09-14T03:55:36Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Instead of meeting at the Museum of Science and Industry, could you please meet at the Field Museum instead? Your confrontation would be so much more epic with a woolly mammoth in the background. No sorry, I’ve already been there recently. (Recently being about three years ago. I haven’t been to the Museum of Science and Industry for something like 40 years.) I am, frankly, looking forward to he and I prowling around the U-Boat armed with Lugers, that when you fire them, a banner comes out saying, “You suck!” ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/66 "2011-09-14T04:00:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Some one should ask him why he wants his gun in NYC? > > The real question is why a retired law enforcement officer is claiming to be a cop? I’m still a cop. After I retired I took a position with another agency part-time. Lots of retired officers around here do that to supplement their pension. The jobs the same, the authority is the same, we’re just limited to work 1250 hours per year, that’s all. (Oh, and no insurance benefits either. But we don’t need them because we get them from the department we retired from). Unless I’m asleep or having an adult beverage I always carry. Most cops I know are the same way. Self protection. Why on Earth do you think so many people in this country get CCW permits in areas that issue them? Was this really such a big mystery to some of you? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/67 "2011-09-14T04:05:25Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Unless I’m asleep or having an adult beverage I always carry. Most cops I know are the same way. Self protection. Why on Earth do you think so many people in this country get CCW permits in areas that issue them? Was this really such a big mystery to some of you? I can’t speak for anyone else, but to me it is not a mystery that you carry within your jurisdiction, nor is it a mystery that you are curious about the laws that govern carrying without your jurisdiction. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/68 "2011-09-14T05:01:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Wow, that was an earful. I can’t believe what assholes people can be around here. The guy asks a simple question and then gets accused of trolling. And that R. P. What’s His Name. “R” must stand for Richard, since he’s such a dick. It’s **R. P. McMurphy**. As in Randle Patrick McMurphy, the protagonist of the Ken Kesey novel and the motion picture “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. The fictional R. P. McMurphy ended up with a lobotomy. The Straight Dope member posts as if he were lobotomized. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/69 "2011-09-14T05:01:44Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > He’s a police officer. He is allowed to carry anywhere in the U.S. though there are some restrictions. [Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act) > Most agencies require or encourage officers to carry at all times. Thank you, **runner pat** , for the answer to my question. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/70 "2011-09-14T10:54:54Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > LHOD, why do you think there’s a “real answer”? Why did you eat whatever you ate for lunch today? Probably because you wanted to, but what’s the real answer? The “original question” is not why he’s wanting to carry. The real question is the one pkbites asked in the OP: what happens to people who legitimately concealed-carry in NYC. Does that clear it up? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/71 "2011-09-14T12:35:59Z")
I do think by and large GQ is the best forum on these boards because of the moderation, generally when leftist dopers can’t withhold their constant idiotic pot shots at anything they dislike the GQ mods typically put a stop to it, and I like that. What really surprised me in that thread is even in recent posts you can tell several of the people replying “oh you can’t carry in NYC it’s illegal, you’ll go to prison just like that NFL player” have not read the OP and are not aware that there is a Federal law the preempts such local regulations for LEOs or retired LEOs. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/72 "2011-09-14T13:11:16Z")
LHOD, sorry, I didn’t think you were referring to the GQ OP question because it seems to have been answered. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/73 "2011-09-14T13:41:17Z")
> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#): > > Wow - I consider myself a pretty dyed-in-the-wool gun control advocate, but the pissing and moaning in that thread was ridiculous. **pkbites** had a very valid question (“I know what the law says, but what can I expect in practice, as a cop carrying a gun into NYC?”), but it some folks saw “gun” and latched onto that like a retarded pitbull. This. [QUOTE=runner pat] What I’m not clear on is if he retains police powers when out of his home state. [/QUOTE] In the absence of an interstate mutual aid agreement (which are usually limited to border areas), a request from a state governor under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact (a federally authorized instate disaster relief agreement), or a “hot pursuit” situation, no (generally). For the most part, a peace officer has the same law enforcement privileges as a private citizen when outside his state. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/74 "2011-09-14T13:42:50Z")
Wait, is the “sociopath” confrontation still in the planning stage? If so, please post the date, time, place. I’m ashamed to admit that I’m morbidly curious when it comes to watching the slow kids fight in the sandlot after school lets out. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/75 "2011-09-14T13:52:54Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Wait, is the “sociopath” confrontation still in the planning stage? > > If so, please post the date, time, place. > > I’m ashamed to admit that I’m morbidly curious when it comes to watching the slow kids fight in the sandlot after school lets out. They need to set up a webcam and stream it to us. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/76 "2011-09-14T13:55:55Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > This. > > In the absence of an interstate mutual aid agreement (which are usually limited to border areas), a request from a state governor under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact (a federally authorized instate disaster relief agreement), or a “hot pursuit” situation, no (generally). > > For the most part, a peace officer has the same law enforcement privileges as a private citizen when outside his state. Thank you, I knew it was like this previously and was thinking it might have been changed as part of the increased security after 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/77 "2011-09-14T14:13:08Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Unless I’m asleep or having an adult beverage I always carry. Most cops I know are the same way. Self protection. Why on Earth do you think so many people in this country get CCW permits in areas that issue them? Was this really such a big mystery to some of you? > [@Frank](#): > > I can’t speak for anyone else, but to me it is not a mystery that you carry within your jurisdiction, nor is it a mystery that you are curious about the laws that govern carrying without your jurisdiction. I agree with Frank, and I understand and respect your right and desire to carry as a Law Enforcement Officer. I guess a better way to phrase the question is: At what point, personally, would you decide it’s just not worth traveling with your gun? Or is there such a point at all? In other words, you seem to realize that you may be in for some hassle if you decide you want to be packing in NYC. So is the option of “Oh well, I suppose I can do without the Glock for a few days and just enjoy my vacation” even on the table? Why or why not? I think it’s a legitimate question that can be answered without anybody calling anybody a sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/78 "2011-09-14T15:35:59Z")
Man, there was a lot of reflexive anti-gun stupidity in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/79 "2011-09-14T15:45:37Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I guess a better way to phrase the question is: At what point, personally, would you decide it’s just not worth traveling with your gun? If I were going to England where I knew I didn’t have a legal leg to stand on and a law suite for being arrested wouldn’t be to my benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/80 "2011-09-14T15:58:38Z")
Wheelz, why are you so interested in pkbites’s desire to carry a gun? He wants to carry a gun–why isn’t that enough for you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173.md?page=5)