# Gun question in GQ

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173 "2011-09-13T17:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/81 "2011-09-14T16:09:34Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I agree with Frank, and I understand and respect your right and desire to carry as a Law Enforcement Officer.
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> I guess a better way to phrase the question is: At what point, personally, would you decide it’s just not worth traveling with your gun? Or is there such a point at all?  
> In other words, you seem to realize that you may be in for some hassle if you decide you want to be packing in NYC. So is the option of “Oh well, I suppose I can do without the Glock for a few days and just enjoy my vacation” even on the table? Why or why not? I think it’s a legitimate question that can be answered without anybody calling anybody a sociopath.

Exactly, and on top of that it was a loaded question, he basically asked if he’ll be confronted at the airport when he takes his glock to NYC. Sounds like he went looking for trouble in that thread just so he could flash his “piece”.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/82 "2011-09-14T16:12:44Z")

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Are you fucking serious? He was a cop. I’m pretty sure he’s got “piece flashing” out of his system.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/83 "2011-09-14T16:12:51Z")

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Well, it’s better than indulging his electronics hobby during the flight.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/84 "2011-09-14T17:33:34Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, it’s better than indulging his electronics hobby during the flight.

I once got in some serious trouble for breaking out a battery operated wood burning kit and making some signage in business class.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/85 "2011-09-14T18:01:15Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I once got in some serious trouble for breaking out a battery operated wood burning kit and making some signage in business class.

Of course you got in trouble. You’re supposed to do that in wood shop.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/86 "2011-09-14T18:01:21Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> Exactly, and on top of that it was a loaded question, he basically asked if he’ll be confronted at the airport when he takes his glock to NYC. Sounds like he went looking for trouble in that thread just so he could flash his “piece”.

What a pile of bollocks. He asked a reasonable question, and got a bunch of soapboxing bullshit (such as your post) basically trying to vilify him. A fair post in GQ, and some good moderating to try to keep it on topic.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/87 "2011-09-14T18:03:32Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I once got in some serious trouble for breaking out a battery operated wood burning kit and making some signage in business class.

Sign making goes in working class.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/88 "2011-09-14T18:35:15Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Wheelz, why are you so interested in pkbites’s desire to carry a gun? He wants to carry a gun–why isn’t that enough for you?

Because I find it an interesting topic of discussion. Certainly **pkbites** can answer me or not as he sees fit. Why are you being so defensive on his behalf?

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/89 "2011-09-14T18:48:39Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> What a pile of bollocks. He asked a reasonable question, and got a bunch of soapboxing bullshit (such as your post) basically trying to vilify him. A fair post in GQ, and some good moderating to try to keep it on topic.

It was a stealth brag about his glock and he mounted his own soapbox about ccw laws in NY. Now you’re building your own slippery slope of bullshit.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/90 "2011-09-14T19:11:23Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> It was a stealth brag about his glock and he mounted his own soapbox about ccw laws in NY. Now you’re building your own slippery slope of bullshit.

Didn’t seem like a stealth brag to me. I am betting you are just a little touchy on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/91 "2011-09-14T19:34:02Z")

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> [@The\_Surb](#):
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> And I helpfully told him that it was ok to open carry in NYC. Which is about the answer I would expect from a message board.
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> But hey that’s just me. I would not trust my big ole Glock to a message board, but feel free. Fuck, have at it. I said he was good. I am an authority. Just ask me, I’m on the internet.

Yes, a moron on the internet.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/92 "2011-09-14T19:38:00Z")

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Good OP.

I actually had a spin-off question about the following assertion in the thread:

> [@I'm taking a Glock to NYC. What can I expect?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/16):
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> From a legal standpoint, a police officer is always on duty and is supposed to take action if he observes a serious crime occurring.

Once I realized I was in GQ, I started [another GQ thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=624263) so as not to hijack.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/93 "2011-09-14T20:40:11Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Because I find it an interesting topic of discussion. Certainly **pkbites** can answer me or not as he sees fit. Why are you being so defensive on his behalf?

I asked because you seem like you may be using the “necessity concept” I mentioned above. I still think you may be in that mindset whether you want to own up to it or not.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/94 "2011-09-14T21:05:49Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Didn’t seem like a stealth brag to me.

Agreed. Am I supposed to be impressed that someone owns a glock? He’d have to be some sad creature to “brag” about owning something worth $500

Posted from my iPad

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/95 "2011-09-14T21:07:35Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s **R. P. McMurphy**. As in Randle Patrick McMurphy, the protagonist of the Ken Kesey novel and the motion picture “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. The fictional R. P. McMurphy ended up with a lobotomy. The Straight Dope member posts as if he were lobotomized.

Cute!

You do realize don’t you that McMurphy and Chief were the only sane one’s in the asylum?

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/96 "2011-09-14T22:26:14Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Cute!
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> You do realize don’t you that McMurphy and Chief were the only sane one’s in the asylum?

Dr. Spivey seemed pretty sane…henpecked, but sane  
SS

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/97 "2011-09-14T22:40:37Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Man, there was a lot of reflexive anti-gun stupidity in that thread.

Yup, and it is THREAD SHITTING and should be wacked down with the strongest Moderation available. Everyone involved has been on this board long enough to know that shit ain’t allowed and isn’t good form.

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**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/98 "2011-09-14T23:03:33Z")

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> [@Who\_me\_1](#):
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> Yes, a moron on the internet.

Don’t be so hard on yourself.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/99 "2011-09-15T01:53:52Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Didn’t seem like a stealth brag to me. I am betting you are just a little touchy on the subject.

It did just a touch to me, because as a gun owner there is no way that I would ever be able to consider even so much as stopping in NYC with a gun in my trunk without risking arrest, yet he has the right to carry it about casually. I suppose it’s a bit of envy that he’s not necessarily as responsible for knowing the laws as I am as a private citizen or subject to such a patchwork of often absurd laws.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-question-in-gq/596173/100 "2011-09-15T04:49:44Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> It was a stealth brag about his glock and he mounted his own soapbox about ccw laws in NY. Now you’re building your own slippery slope of bullshit.

Let’s see that stealth brag/soapbox again, shall we:

“I’ve traveled all over the country and had no problems bringing my pistol. But most places do not have a hard-on towards handguns like New York City does. The last time I was in NYC was before HR218 was law so I didn’t have a sidearm with me.”

Care to point out which part is the bragging there? Or maybe just why he is wrong to point out that New York has very strict gun laws?

It was a completely valid OP. If it hadn’t been, then a moderator would have jumped on it. Instead, as you may have noticed, the moderator felt obliged to tell various people to stop accusing the OP of such items as you claim above. Of course, that’s may not stop you from reading it as a rabid piece of gun lobby soapboxing, but that’s your problem.

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