# Gun registration question

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [June 18, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414 "2007-06-18T02:59:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/1 "2007-06-18T02:59:39Z")

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A relative has offered me two guns that are family heirlooms. One is a double-barrelled shotgun, one is a .22 rifle. Both are antique. I know very little about gun law. If I accept the offer, do I need to register them? Anything else legal I ought to know? If I take them, I’m not planning to use them (except after the revolution, when all bets are off). Thanks.

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### Author: ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/2 "2007-06-18T03:01:49Z")

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Depends on where you live. Some cities, some counties, some states require you to register your guns. There is no Federal requirement for registration, except for machineguns and the like.

ETA: Where specifically in the PNW are you?

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/3 "2007-06-18T03:26:24Z")

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Don’t ask, don’t tell. Take the guns, say thank you, and don’t tell the Gubmint anything. Neither of those firearms is on any “prohibited” list, and I am unaware of any requirements where you are located to register longarms.

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### Author: ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/4 "2007-06-18T03:31:02Z")

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Nothing of substance to add to **Bear** ’s post, but I’ve heard people get “registration” and “background check” confused. _Nationally_ a background check is required for any gun acquired through a FFL dealer, but not from a private party (greatly simplified - check your local laws for definitions of “private”, “party”, “dealer”, “from”, “not”, etc.)

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### Author: ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/5 "2007-06-18T05:59:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Shoshana]  
A relative has offered me two guns that are family heirlooms. One is a double-barrelled shotgun, one is a .22 rifle. Both are antique. I know very little about gun law. If I accept the offer, do I need to register them? Anything else legal I ought to know? If I take them, I’m not planning to use them (except after the revolution, when all bets are off). Thanks.  
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My understanding is that “Antique” has a specific meaning under US Firearms Law, referring specifically to firearms made prior to January 1st, 1899.

[Here’s the Wiki page on the subject](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_Guns#United_States_Antique_Gun_Laws), but I would strongly suggest you check your local laws to be safe.

How do you know the guns are antiques, out of curiosity?

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### Author: ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/6 "2007-06-18T07:18:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Shoshana]  
A relative has offered me two guns that are family heirlooms. One is a double-barrelled shotgun, one is a .22 rifle. Both are antique. I know very little about gun law. If I accept the offer, do I need to register them? Anything else legal I ought to know? If I take them, I’m not planning to use them (except after the revolution, when all bets are off). Thanks.  
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IANAL. Assuming…

1. you are in Multnomah county
2. you are not a felon, ever been committed for mental health purposes, over 18
3. your relative is not a gun dealer

… you don’t need to register or anything like that.

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### Author: ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/7 "2007-06-18T13:25:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Martini Enfield]  
How do you know the guns are antiques, out of curiosity?  
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When I read the OP, I was thinking that many people assume old = antique.

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### Author: ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/8 "2007-06-18T21:05:08Z")

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Long guns (rifles, shotguns) are usually much less regulated that handguns. In many places there are no regulations on them at all beyond the usual brandishing/discharging laws that apply to all firearms.

Google your state and gun laws.

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### Author: ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)
#### Post date: [June 19, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/9 "2007-06-19T02:52:34Z")

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Thanks, everyone.

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> How do you know the guns are antiques, out of curiosity?

They’re guns that belonged to someone 4 generations before me.

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### Author: ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)
#### Post date: [June 19, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/10 "2007-06-19T09:39:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Shoshana]  
They’re guns that belonged to someone 4 generations before me.  
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I’m not sure if that would make them pre-1898, though (of course, it’s your family, so you’d be aware of the relevant ages; I’m just saying that 4 generations could be as little as 70 or 80 years).

If the guns are genuine antiques (as opposed to just “old”), then the shotgun is almost certainly **NOT** chambered for modern shotgun shells, unless it’s a relatively expensive make such as a W.W. Greener or a Holland & Holland.

_DO NOT FIRE THE SHOTGUN UNTIL YOU HAVE HAD IT CHECKED BY A COMPETENT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE GUNSMITH._

Shotguns made up until about 1900 are typically chambered for black powder shotshells, and they often have [Damascus Steel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel#Pattern_welded_.22Damascened.22_steel) barrels. They are dangerously unsafe to fire with nitrocellulose-based (smokeless) powders, as the barrel cannot handle the pressures generated by modern cartridges when firing.

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### Author: ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)
#### Post date: [June 19, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-registration-question/408414/11 "2007-06-19T15:51:54Z")

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Thanks for the advice. We don’t plan to fire them.

Based on the ages and generations, 1899 would be a rather late estimate for these.
