# Guns in the toys... how sick can these individuals be?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145 "2014-06-05T18:41:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/81 "2014-06-10T13:37:17Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> Target shooting is practice for using a weapon. If not, then what you are describing is a recreational device - e.g. a toy, but still not a tool.

Weapons are tools. Some of the earliest tools in the archaeological record are weapons. I don’t understand this need you have to classify weapons as non-tools when they so clearly are tools

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> That is like saying a bowling ball or a pool cue are tools.

Arguably they are.

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> Again you can make a stupid game of semantics arguing that almost anything is a tool or anything is a weapon, but a gun is a weapon by design.

Yes, guns are weapons. They are also tools. The categories are not mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/82 "2014-06-10T14:22:59Z")

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Y’know, my first thought on reading this was that it was the work of one of those gun-grabbers who wants people to get used to the sight of guns, like those idiots who made the big show in Jack-in-the-Box. Yes, this would be a really stupid way to make that point, but then, the gun-grabbers tend to be stupid. It never even occurred to me that it might be someone opposed to guns.

Though I agree that, on second thought, a criminal trying to ditch evidence is much more likely.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/83 "2014-06-10T16:22:13Z")

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They still have not found the person(s) responsible?

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/84 "2014-06-10T18:18:13Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> They still have not found the person(s) responsible?

They have identified the last known owner of the gun and have a picture of the person of interest who was in the store at the time. Pictures in the link.

> **[Police identify man wanted for leaving loaded gun in Target toy aisle](https://www.wmbfnews.com/story/25698439/real-gun-found-in-toy-aisle/)**
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> A real gun was found in the toy aisle of Target on Seaboard Street. The police report states a loss prevention worker stumbled upon the gun Friday night. The MBPD has released the picture of a subject in reference to an incident at Target in...

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> On Thursday, the Myrtle Beach Police Department released a photo of the man they are attempting to identify in reference to the incident. Anyone with information is asked to contact Detective H. Jones at 843-918-1911.
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> On Friday, Myrtle Beach Police released the identity of the last known registered owner of the handgun: Chavonne Tere Moore.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/85 "2014-06-11T03:49:41Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Weapons are tools. Some of the earliest tools in the archaeological record are weapons. I don’t understand this need you have to classify weapons as non-tools when they so clearly are tools

You clearly also don’t understand what it means when I say “stupid game of semantics” so there isn’t any point in telling you for a third time why that is a stupid game of semantics.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/86 "2014-06-11T04:31:10Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Jesus fucking Christ. No, they do not sell guns at Target.

But they do at Walmart and Fleet Farm.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-in-the-toys-how-sick-can-these-individuals-be/690145/87 "2014-06-12T18:04:52Z")

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There is a 99% probability that the worst case scenario would have been a single round ripping through a pallet of bubblepacked jump-ropes and a crying child with the shit scared out of him. Real terrorists empty entire magazines of hollow-points in crowded places intending to hit human targets, and consider themselves lucky if they hit two or three vital organs. While thousands of kids are killed every year by drunk or inattentive or texting drivers. Why do we let a dog-whistle media dominate our fears this way?

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