# Guns N' Roses: "Chinese Democracy" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 22, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954 "2008-11-22T03:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/1 "2008-11-22T03:36:00Z")
The album is due out Sunday, and right now it’s streaming on their [MySpace page](http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses). I’ve listened it to the first three songs and I’m not sure how much further I’m going to get. I recognize that this album could never live up to the hype, but even taking that into account, it’s boring. The songs are technically fine, the production is great, but there’s absolutely nothing interesting about it. Maybe this would’ve cut it back in 1994, but that was a long time ago. Your thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/2 "2008-11-22T03:53:52Z")
Halfway through now. “If the World” is a good song, and definitely unexpected. Overall, I think this album will be the textbook example of overproduction for some time to come. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/3 "2008-11-22T04:04:45Z")
“Sorry” kinda works musically, but it sounds like writing credit is owed to the lyricist of Linkin Park. Also it is way too long. I think that’s symptomatic of the basic problem with the album–there’s no one who can tell Axl that he’s overindulging in whatever he’s overindulging in at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/4 "2008-11-22T04:13:06Z")
On a whim, I checked the play counts for the various songs. There’s a pretty significant drop off from the first few to the last part. I guess I’m one of the few who’s going to make it through the whole thing on sheer morbid curiosity. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/5 "2008-11-22T04:18:47Z")
“Cool Hand Luke” is a good movie with lots of good lines. If you’re going to sample from it twice in songs fifteen years apart, do you really need to use the same part in both of them? ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/6 "2008-11-22T04:32:01Z")
Oh thank God, it’s over. This is a bad album. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy/473954/7 "2008-11-22T04:58:14Z")
Aren’t we supposed to get free Dr Pepper out of this? I mean, except for Slash? Never mind, here’s the link: [http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220](http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220)