# GusNSpot, you are one sick fuck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642 "2011-07-19T23:26:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/21 "2011-07-20T02:25:38Z")
I would shoot someone who looked like he was about to shoot someone for burning a flag. Hypothetically. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/22 "2011-07-20T02:29:53Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > So what’s burning an American flag symbolic of? An expression of one’s anger at the state of the country and/or government. What do YOU think it symbolizes? And even if you disagree with that, do you think someone should be shot for doing so? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/23 "2011-07-20T02:41:12Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Absolutely. Well, then, I guess we don’t have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc. Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn’t unlimited. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/24 "2011-07-20T02:49:37Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Well, then, I guess we don’t have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc. > > Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn’t unlimited. oooo Gocthya ya. I am totally impressed. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/25 "2011-07-20T03:02:22Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Absolutely. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/26 "2011-07-20T03:11:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Well, then, I guess we don’t have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc. > > Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn’t unlimited. True. For example, no matter how intensely I may wish to call you a cuntlapper, or invite you (or another poster) to suck/lick my dick/cock and variants, I’m prohibited from doing so. Should you fuck off and die? I’m precluded from giving my opinion. I’m sorry. I prefer not to be coy, but we fan the cards we’re dealt. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/27 "2011-07-20T03:30:59Z")
I wonder if he goes to the beach and yells at people wearing bikinis made to look like cut-up American flags. Wal-Mart sells these each July 4th season and I do not understand why no one has a problem with it. Or American flag boxers. Or FLIP FLOPS. Deliberately burning a flag as part of a protest makes sense. Casually using a flag to cover your naked ass is just tack and disrespectful. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/28 "2011-07-20T03:33:16Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Well, then, I guess we don’t have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc. > > Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn’t unlimited. Thanks for pointing that out. No matter how good a thread is, it could always be better with a little more nitpicking and pedantry. Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/29 "2011-07-20T03:36:32Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] He would shoot you for doing something to a piece of cloth made in China. [/QUOTE] Whereas Le Jac would shoot you for buying a flag made in China, since you are obviously supporting the swipe-age of an American’s job! 😛 Some days it just doesn’t pay to get out of bed… -XT ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/30 "2011-07-20T03:42:10Z")
At least nobody is burning books. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/31 "2011-07-20T03:53:15Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > :rolleyes: Wow, what a great rebuttal. You must have been captain of the debate club with skills like that. I don’t see what’s so eyeroll-worthy about believing in free speech. I’ll defend the right to say and do damn near anything that doesn’t directly harm another person. That’s one thing about this country that we do better than almost anyone else, and when anyone tries to limit that freedom it tells me they don’t understand “freedom” like they think they do. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/32 "2011-07-20T04:03:59Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He would shoot you for doing something to a piece of cloth made in China. As usual, I will do my patriotic duty as a freedom-loving American and quote Bill Hicks. The comments below were his reaction to a recent (at the time) Supreme Court decision upholding our First Amendment rights. > [@](#): > > Did you watch the flag-burning thing? Wasn’t that great? Boy, everyone showed their true colors then, didn’t they? Retarded nation that we are. Scary. > > People just - people acted as though the Supreme Court approved of flag-burning, you know what I mean? . . . People were just: “Hey, buddy. Let me tell you something. My daddy died for that flag.” > > Really? …I _bought_ mine… you know they sell 'em at K-Mart and shit. Yeah. Three bucks. > > “My daddy died in the Korean War for that flag!” > > What a coincidence. Mine was _made_ in Korea! > > He didn’t die for a fucking flag, it’s a piece of cloth. He died for what the flag represents, which is… THE FREEDOM… TO BURN… THE FUCKING FLAG!! It’s best really to watch Hicks say it himself. Here’s one [great performance](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBCkm9-LvRg) of the bit. [NOTE: since he performed it differently every time, the above quote isn’t an exact “transcript” of the linked-to video.] How did such an obvious freedom-of-expression right ever even become questioned? What kind of Anti-American, fascist idiots agitated to have a clear-cut First Amendment right argued before SCOTUS? What kind of courts were so ignorant of one of the fundamental and most-cherished parts of our Constitution that the case was ever appealed to any higher court? It’s really fucking scary that we have people in our midst who hate freedom so much that they would launch such a totalitarian-type effort, and it’s really fucking scary that it wasn’t simply laughed out of the very first court it stank up. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/33 "2011-07-20T04:24:26Z")
I hear people say stuff like what **GusNSpot** said all the time. Particularly military veterans and older guys and rural people. It doesn’t really get to me because I know they’re not seriously going to kill someone. They are just really emotional about the flag. I don’t have the same kind of attachment to it, though I certainly wouldn’t desecrate the flag myself. **GusNSpot** comes from a different place; he’s a vet, a biker, just an all-around good ol’ boy. I don’t live in a bubble. I know plenty of guys who feel the way he does. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/34 "2011-07-20T04:36:49Z")
Being raised in Texas, “good old boy” is pretty much debased currency, far as I’m concerned. Mostly, it was mean and stupid dressed up like gusto. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/35 "2011-07-20T04:37:10Z")
Ahem… I burning your flag! ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/36 "2011-07-20T04:58:01Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I hear people say stuff like what **GusNSpot** said all the time. Particularly military veterans and older guys and rural people. It doesn’t really get to me because I know they’re not seriously going to kill someone. They are just really emotional about the flag. I don’t have the same kind of attachment to it, though I certainly wouldn’t desecrate the flag myself. **GusNSpot** comes from a different place; he’s a vet, a biker, just an all-around good ol’ boy. I don’t live in a bubble. I know plenty of guys who feel the way he does. Whatever. “Plenty of guys” saying something doesn’t make it any less ridiculous. The idiots who brag about serving their country and fighting for freedom in one breath, while showing such blatant ignorance about what freedom really means are the scariest kind of hypocrites. They’re usually the same ones who have little tolerance for anyone who doesn’t look, believe, or think just like they do. And the irony is them thinking they’re such great Americans while behaving like xenophobic morons. Good 'ol boys, my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/37 "2011-07-20T05:29:45Z")
Oh, he’s a good ol’ boy? Well, bless his heart. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/38 "2011-07-20T05:36:05Z")
Too much estrogen in this thread for my liking. Shooting flag burners is just too easy, too antiseptic and, yes, girly. Beat someone to death with your bare fists and people will know you are serious about the flag and all it stands for. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/39 "2011-07-20T05:52:19Z")
It took me what, 10 years to get a pit thread all my own. w00t!!! ( Well, Monty don’t really count. ) Had to really get out there but I got’er done. Bawahahaha I want to thank Guinastasia for the honor. She has disliked me for almost the whole 10 years. I must be getting cranky in my old age. Buy a flag, burn it. Steal a flag and burn it, not so much. Thanks for the fun. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642/40 "2011-07-20T06:41:57Z")
I have? Well, that’s news to me. I haven’t really even paid much attention to you. _burns the U.S. flag on **GusNSpot** ’s street while singing “O’ Canada!”_ (It’s the only other national anthem I know.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gusnspot-you-are-one-sick-fuck/589642.md?page=3)