To further explain my smart ass comment, I was attempting to make a point that lots of folks on this board usually defend overweight individuals and are VERY critical of blaming overweight folks for their weight. Mind you some poiints of view re this issue deserve to be smacked-down, but it appears that it’s not ok to blame someone for being overweight. Yet here, everyone is doing so, yet no ones getting falmed for doing so, it just seems weird to me…
FYI, the bad genes/bad metabolism reason is usually the most cited reason, but I feel that this does NOT account for a majority of overweight people.
BBJ, it’s rude to assume that a random overweight person is that way by choice, due to eating too much or lack of exercise, as other factors may play a role. So, to mock someone who is overweight is ignorant and cruel, as you have no way of knowing anything about them, including why they are overweight.
In this case, you have a guy who is proclaiming “I’m fat because I eat way too much fast food! And it’s not my fault!” He is telling us that he’s overweight due to overeating of extremely fatty, unhealthy food, and yet at the same time, saying his obesity is not his fault. To me, this is synonymous with “Wow, I’m stupid! Pay me!”
There is a big difference between mocking someone because they are obese, and mocking someone who is obese because they are stupid.
How do you feel then about an obese person loading their plate up with every fried goody in the world, is it ok to then assume that person is overweight because he/she eats too much? Look everyone’s body deals differently with food, but I am simply not going to assume that a majority of overweight people have a reason for it other than too much intake and too little calorie burning. Yes there are exceptions, but when I see an overweight person eating 3 times the amount of his/her caloric intake in one sitting, I’m gonna call a spade a spade. I blame those individuals for their obesity.
But here, well yes, he overeats, he admits it, we acknowledge that and we blame him. Other instances on this board where this had been postulated the person received a mighty painful smackdown…including me.
You can assume whatever you want about someone. Just keep it to yourself. The smackdown you describe happens when people feel the need to mock people for being overweight in a public forum.
Even if their weight is their fault, overweight people have the right to complain about how much it sucks to be heavy in our society. Our society treats overweight people very badly. This is unfair. Why is it OK to mistreat someone because they like KFC too much? Yes, many people could eat better, exercise and thereby avoid the abuse, but the abuse shouldn’t be dished out in the first place.
In this thread, the guy is not being mocked for being overweight. He is being mocked for blaming his weight on the restaurants where he freely ate fatty food on a regular basis, with predictable results. He would have been mocked just as much if he tried to sue Coca Cola for drinking ten liters of soda a day and getting cavities.
It’s high time those of us who are sick and fucking tired of this shit these attorneys (and their irresponsible, greedy clients) clog up our courts with pay the freight.
I’m calling for a class action suit against these abusers of the system.
Let’s see:
7 years (statute of limitations) X $1,200 X all 280 million persons in the US = $2,385,600,000,000.
Divided by those who we’ll sue:
1 million US attorneys and their lecherous clients
For a grand total of:
$2,385,000 out of the nose of each and every on 'em.
That oughta break em, or at least hit em where it hurts.
I want my $8,400 to come from either Ralph Nader or Johnnie Cochran.
Try being an overweight Goth! I went up two sizes and now buying Goth over the 'net is a struggle–but it’s my own fault! If I got out of this chair and walked down the three flights of stairs, out the door and walked a half-mile or so every day like I used to, I’d be back down to a size I could find easily.
Now, L.L.Bean, for one, makes attractive, well-made, long-wearing clothes in a very wide range of sizes at great prices. So if you’re not into extremely trendy or niche styles, you do have options.
I’ve seen an obese acquaintance throw catalogs across the room in a fit of rage because a dress she liked wasn’t available in 2X–and then follow her evening ritual (she did this every single night) of sitting on the couch in front of the TV, chowing down on a two-pound bag of candy. Sorry, people like that get zero sympathy from me.
Police: LOOK OUT, He’s got an 80% lean Hamburger Patty!!! Go for cover!!
by your logic, Paper should be made illegal unless it is in spherical form, after all, papercuts affect dozens of ameicans each day. We must end this scourge now!! I’m launching a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against Mead and 3M, on behalf of all paper-cut victims out there!!!
You know, you can drive PAST the McDonalds and go to the health food store and eat some tofu. It is possible! Why should i suffer because some Chowderhead can’t keep his greasy mitts away from the fries?
Ummm, I don’t think so. I buy 73% ground beef for about $1.39 per pound at the grocery store, sometimes as low as $1.19 or even lower in “family pack” sizes. The pound in my refrigerator right now, that I just checked, is $1.39. Surely McDonald’s is getting it cheaper than I am. I don’t know what you’re using for your figures there. The price on the 96% sounds about right though. Maybe McD’s could get that a little less expensively too, but then again maybe not. Are the suppliers for fast food chains prepared to deal in large quantities of lean beef? Maybe, maybe not. Is it available in quantities as large? Maybe, maybe not.
Anyways, it’s enough of a price difference retail to significantly impact my grocery shopping. Factoring in the markup that McD’s surely charges, and I can’t see how it wouldn’t translate into a price difference that would also impact me. For me, the difference between 73% and 96% beef is about $1.60 per pound. That translates, for me, into 40 cents per burger (presuming I make 1/4 lb burgers). What that might translate into for McD’s has got to be closer to that figure.
Well, it’s winter down here at the moment, and blow me down if it wasn’t so cold the other day that I saw a Lawyer walking down the street with his hands in his OWN pockets…
Tar, your analogy was so inane and idiotic that it doesn’t merit a response. And yet… I worry. I worry that people won’t be able to see it for the abject stupidity that it is. After all, you couldn’t. Otherwise, why would you have posted it? So I will explain to you the difference between paper cuts and heart disease: heart disease kills people.
spooje, I agree that careless behaviour causes fast food to become dangerous. But I don’t see how careless behaviour, even repeated careless behaviour over a long period of time, warrents a death sentence. The changes that I suggest will save lives. Millions of lives. And that’s why I support the changes that I support.
Rex, I should have pointed out that all figures are in Canadian dollars. However, regardless of what you think, and regardless how much you pay, that is what the grocery store that I used to obtain those figures pays for ground beef. $0.41 is the actual difference in price, at cost, in Canadian dollars.
Note that I was referring to a 4 cent increase for a regular burger, not a quarter pounder. The difference in price for a quarter pounder would be, using the at cost figures that I got from the grocery store, 10 cents. I stand by my earlier statement that these price differences, implemented while switching to a better tasting and better for you product, would go pretty much unnoticed.
Out of curiosity, can you show me what your grocery stores pays from Medium and XLean ground beef?
The behaviour does not warrent a death sentence. Neither does it amount to a big payday.
You want healthy food served to the public? You think the public will buy it? Then open yourself up a food joint. I don’t think we should tell fast food joints how to run their businesses simply because some of their customers are in fact the lowest common denominator.
If I want fat, greasy, tasty food, that is my right. And McDonalds, if they want my business, is entiltle to profit from that. If I want healthy food, I go somewheres else.
As I see it, this is not a health issue. It’s a personal responsibilty issue. Do you take responsibilty for your actions? I bet you do. I know I do. Why shouldn’t Cesar Barbar???
Look, whatever happened to him, it’s not McDonalds fault. Therefore, they shouldn’t pay this guy a dime.
And yet both are preventable by being careful. But i guess its just easier to sue and blame others. And yet… I worry. I worry that people won’t be able to see it for the abject stupidity that it is. After all, you couldn’t. Otherwise, why would you have posted it? So i will explain to you personal responibility: Taking responsiblilty for your own actions.
The fast food industry has the right to kill people with its product, as long as people aren’t forced to use it.
The individual in this case is responsible for his own state.
I emphatically disagree with point number one. Point number two is more complicated.
I don’t buy for one second the “I was tricked into thinking burgers are healthy” excuse. However, anyone who doesn’t believe that the fast food industry both encourages and enjoys the profits from persons such as Mr. Barbar purchasing their product to an unhealthy extent is fooling themself. Without such persons, the fast food industry would lose, literally, shitloads of money[SUP]1[/SUP]. The fast food industry has profited off this man’s self-destruction, but moreover, the industry could have made changes to prevent not only this case, but millions and millions of others just like it. For knowing the danger of their product, refusing to reduce the risks associated with the product, and for encouraging the use the product in a dangerous manner, they are responsible, if not wholly then partially, for the health issues discussed in this suit.
[SUP]This statement assumes that a shitload is a 10 pound bag of manure, and that said the money the fast food industry would lose is equal to the amount of money in multiple shitloads filled with thousand dollar bills[/SUP]
Tar: here’s another difference between papercuts and heart disease that you’re obviously too stupid to grasp.
Heart disease is a natural consequence of using fast food the way the fast food industry wants consumers to use it. Papercuts are accidents that bear no relationship at all to the way 3M wishes paper to be used.
I can continue, if you want. Feel free to copy and paste this post and change a few words around, if you feel you can’t manage making up sentences of your own.
dea: So the fast food industry controls your life? are you a slave? have you no free will? Do you always do what the fast food industry says to do? are you that gullible? did you know gullible isn’t in the dictionary? are you too stupid to understand personal responsibility, or are you too busy calling your lawyer trying to sue McD’s yourself?