# guys who pee with the seat down **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 27, 2001, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296 "2001-08-27T07:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tclouie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@tclouie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tclouie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/1 "2001-08-27T07:39:13Z")
You men who have tried to use the restroom in stores and movie theaters know what I’m talking about. Is it some macho thing? Do they know they’re inconveniencing the guys who come after them? Or is it unconscious? Bad upbringing, inattentive education in manners? One time I actually saw a guy avoid a urinal to go over to the toilet and pee all over the seat. (It wasn’t shyness, there was no booth surrounding the toilet.) As a believer in non-violence, and also kind of a wimp (the two are not synonymous!), I didn’t pursue the matter . But still, I’m curious! Is it really that hard to just lift the seat up when you pee? Do these guys do it at home? Do they leave lovely yellow droplets as a present for their family members to find? Hey, let’s see if any of them are on these boards! If you’re one of those guys I’ve been talking about, please do write in! I won’t be mean to you, I just wanna know how your mind works. ---
**Author:** ![23skidoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f04885/32.png) [@23skidoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/23skidoo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/2 "2001-08-27T08:05:20Z")
I’d like to add: “What’s the deal with using a toilet to pee in, but not bothering to lock the door behind you?” I’ve never pushed on a stall door to have it swing open and see someone sitting down. But quite often, I’ll push and there’s a guy inside takin’ a pee. [sub]I wonder if he’s doing it all over the toilet seat…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/3 "2001-08-27T08:05:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tclouie \* > \*\*Is it some macho thing? \*\* Um, maybe an overconfidant or forgetful thing. I for one have excellent aim, yet I tend to forget this when it comes to the shake-off, the moment when most of the driblets are applied to the toilet seat. Plus, the idea of touching the underside of a toilet seat in a public restroom doesn’t really make my mouth water. In fact if I do happen to lift it, it will be with my foot, same with flushing, which is definitely a macho thing. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tclouie \* > **Do they know they’re inconveniencing the guys who come after them?** Definitely unconscious. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tclouie \* > **Do these guys do it at home?** Most assuredly and my mom hated it, bu what can you do? If you remember, you remember. ---
**Author:** ![tclouie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@tclouie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tclouie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/4 "2001-08-27T08:14:45Z")
Well, you might at least try putting down one of those tissue-paper toilet seat covers before you start. That way, even if you get pee on the seat, I won’t know it when it’s my turn. 'Sides, what have you got against urinals??? ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/5 "2001-08-27T08:45:01Z")
**tclouie** , Why would I remember to lay down the paper if I can’t remember to lift the seat? You know, I don’t know if you know this or not but you are doing a fine job of ingraining this into my consciousness. Now _every time_ I take a whiz I am bound to think of you. How do you like that imagery? Most of the joints I hang out in don’t even have those paper toilet “bibs”, they have _urinals_. Urinals are the main reason for my laxadasical attitude about toilet seat-lifting. In fact, when I get rich I am going to put a urinal in my bathroom: a urinal with a toilet seat so _you_ can sit on it when you come over, and I’ll just leave it up until then. ---
**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/6 "2001-08-27T09:46:05Z")
What are toilet seats for anyway? They’re superfluous to the requirements of both men and women. Who really needs them? I don’t like them. I don’t use them. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/7 "2001-08-27T11:39:14Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d like to add: “What’s the deal with using a toilet to pee in, but not bothering to lock the door behind you?” I don’t lock the door when I pee in a pub. toilet but I don’t close the door either so it is pretty obvious I’m in there. I almost always lift the seat except when it is obviously wet from the previous user and I don’t want to touch it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/8 "2001-08-27T11:42:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by G. Nome \* > \*\*What are toilet seats for anyway? They’re superfluous to the requirements of both men and women. Who really needs them? I don’t like them. I don’t use them. \*\* Aha! A squatter. (I hope so, anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/9 "2001-08-27T12:18:01Z")
Okaaaay…so the guys are pissed if the seat stays down and the girls are pissed if the seat stays up and no one wants to touch the seat…got it… ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/10 "2001-08-27T19:32:13Z")
I refuse to touch a public toilet seat but do at least try and throw a ringer at “horseshoes”. Me thinks the same guys that pee all over the seat are the ones that also launch a sea pickle w/o the use of any paper products. ---
**Author:** ![Tedster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@Tedster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tedster)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/11 "2001-08-27T20:27:55Z")
Men “Piss”, not “Pee” _grin_ Some people are gun shy and have problems initiating a urine stream in the presence of others. I have no idea why. But people who urinate on toilet seats should be whipped severely. Leaving a log behind is especially egregious as well. ---
**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/12 "2001-08-28T10:34:47Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* \*\* > [@](#): > > Aha! A squatter. > > (I hope so, anyway.) \*\* A toilet sans-seat is not a hole in the ground but, anyway, thanks for caring. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/13 "2001-08-28T11:15:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AHunter3 \* > \*\*Okaaaay…so the guys are pissed if the seat stays down and the girls are pissed if the seat stays up and no one wants to touch the seat…got it… \*\* girls just need to think this through more carefully. in the middle of the night a sleepy woman will sit in the water, a sleepy man will pee on the seat yet still hear the splash in the water and leave it that way. choose wisely. As for me I like urinals, I plan on having on in my house when I build it in a few decades. And I am really anal about putting not just the seat down but the lid too. Closing it up before you flush helps to dramatically reduce the spume of used toilet water shooting into the air and enveloping you. Not that you have that option in public restrooms. Oh, and if I do have to piss in a public toilet I lift the seat up with my shoes toe. It steps on so much crap anyway I figure I’m safe. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/14 "2001-08-28T17:48:58Z")
Yep, a wingtip is a mighty fine instrument for lifting said lid butt make sure this method is only employed at public peestations, not private. A friend of mine, admittedly from Abilene, recounted how he had to whip a mild acquaintance’s ass after he saw the guy toe tapping the seat in his house. I guess he figured the guy thought he was too good to touch it himself and it really pissed Roy off. He really is the most polite guy you’ll ever meet butt he demands a lot of that back in return. What I hate is when you have to piss (thanks Tedster) sometime overnight and there’s a “morning wood” problem. Leaning forward with at least one outstretched hand against the wall, I call it my “Flying Superman” piss. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/15 "2001-08-28T18:06:29Z")
I could see, once in an extremely rare while, particularly at roadside rest stops, the need to leave the seat down because you really can’t afford to wait that last five seconds before peeing… no excuse if there’s a urinal there, but I know I’ve been in that kind of hurry a few times. Then again, I cleaned up after myself, too… ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-who-pee-with-the-seat-down/78296/16 "2001-08-28T21:21:35Z")
All the nonsense that goes on about women complaining about the seat being left up and not one of them has ever thought that there is an even worse alternative. We have 3 sons and two daughters. The question of putting the lid back down never came up in our house, but the two oldest boys know exactly when they learned that taking a leak thru the lid was not a good idea.