# Guys, would you take this deal? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 3, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360 "2010-11-03T18:34:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/41 "2010-11-04T03:03:36Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > From an evolutionary standpoint it’s a full win/win. He gets another offspring with little or no increased effort, and the children are more likely to get “equal” treatment by the Mother than if she had one with another Father. > > I dont know what the increase in support would be for two children vs one, so maybe that’s the critical bit of info? > > If a guy really didn’t care much about his kids, but wanted to ensure his genetic line, I’d think it would be great for him. maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think most guys give a rat’s ass about “ensuring their genetic line.” Evolution may encourage us to have sex, but doesn’t necessarily make us want to have children. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/42 "2010-11-04T03:09:58Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > I remember that. But then, he and Lillith do get on well these days and her reasoning was based largely on him being a good father to Freddy. So from his POV, his son would have a sibling (which has advantages) without another father being involved (which can have disadvantages, depending on the father). > > Of course, they were both rich, which makes a difference. Also, I think Lillith’s reasoning was less wanting Frasier to finance this and more feeling like she wasn’t going to have a chance to have more children and wanting to make sure she had access to the best genetic material she could find. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/43 "2010-11-04T06:07:26Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Who the fuck cares if they’re “true” siblings or not? Genes care, evidently. Selfish little bastards. If she were my ex, she could suck it. (Only figuratively - I’m not going to fall for _that_ again.) ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/44 "2010-11-04T07:29:23Z")
Only if I were Lazarus Long. Since I’m not, bah she can go fuck herself. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/45 "2010-11-04T11:30:45Z")
No fucking chance in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/46 "2010-11-04T12:22:10Z")
It’s not clear what the circumstances behind the divorce were. If you (as the man) had walked out on your devoted wife she may genuinely wish her daughter to have a genetic sibling. You were the love of her life, and she doesn’t want to remarry, but at the same time your treatment of her means she just can’t bring herself to hop in the sack with you. So her motives might not be that bad, just trying to salvage something from the relationship (even if it’s a bit misguided). ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/47 "2010-11-04T12:47:46Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > It’s not clear what the circumstances behind the divorce were. That’s not clear to me either, and I have no inclination to go on a fact-finding mission to find out. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/48 "2010-11-04T17:15:36Z")
> [@supergalactic](#): > > Sounds like she’s got a real set of balls on her. Tell her she can go fuck herself. I _thumbs up_ this answer. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/49 "2010-11-04T17:23:04Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Not a chance. And I wouldn’t pull any tricks with substitute sperm either; just because a kid isn’t related to me doesn’t mean that the courts won’t decide I need to pay child support for it anyway. If it’s from a horse tho, the court will say “Neigh!” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/50 "2010-11-04T17:33:16Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > Only if I were Lazarus Long. Since I’m not, bah she can go fuck herself. If you were Lazarus you wouldn’t do it. He hated the very idea of abandoning a child to be raised by others, and declined to do it though he surely had many opportunties to have sex with women whose primary interest was the prestige of having his kid. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/51 "2010-11-04T18:27:19Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > If the man isn’t expected/planning to take a paternal role, I don’t see why there is an automatic assumption that he would be liable for child support under suitable legal conditions. Not necessarily would be liable, but certainly could be liable, despite what appear to be “suitable legal conditions.” Various courts have made some seemingly bizarre rulings on matters of paternal liability. Given the potential cost, it would be foolish to take the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/52 "2010-11-04T18:59:04Z")
**Hell[SUP] No[/SUP]** ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/53 "2010-11-06T23:13:47Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I certainly don’t know what’s going on in her head, but there was no talk of child support. I don’t know what’s going on in her head either, but, while there \*was \*no talk of child support, that doesn’t mean that there \*won’t \*be talk of child support. Best wishes, hh ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/54 "2010-11-07T16:50:23Z")
Hey, she got about 3 million of my sperm and only used 1 to make the kid she’s got. She can use a leftover. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/55 "2010-11-08T13:49:06Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > I don’t know what’s going on in her head either, but, while there \*was \*no talk of child support, that doesn’t mean that there \*won’t \*be talk of child support. Are you trying to say that a woman selfish enough to get a man’s sperm for her own selfish reasons might someday do something selfish? Say it ain’t so! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360/56 "2010-11-08T16:45:22Z")
Not even if I _was_ gettin’ sexed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-would-you-take-this-deal/559360.md?page=2)