# Guys, Y U no listen? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-y-u-no-listen/655424 "2013-04-11T17:32:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 782
**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-y-u-no-listen/655424/782 "2013-04-18T22:36:17Z")
jaynist fucking crutch on a pogostick. Have you actually read any of these threads? treis didn’t just give that impression, he flatly said it, repeatedly. What the holy fuck is your point? Here’s a few highlights for you, since you evidently can’t be bothered to read anything. > [@treis](#): > > No, clearly an invitation up to a girl’s apartment on a flimsy excuse + an explicit prohibition on sex = she wants to fool around a bit. Maybe she does want to have sex, but she doesn’t want it to be her idea. … You know that apartment = sexy time. Are you not aware that women often use “I don’t want to have sex” to establish a limit, and that this phrase doesn’t mean no hanky panky? Or that some women want to have sex but they don’t want it to be their idea? > [@treis](#): > > To paraphrase Robin from How I Met Your Mother: “A Lady invents a respectable excuse to invite a man over when she wants to get stuck real good. It’s called class”. > [@Treis, no means no.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556/426): > > “Because some women don’t always mean no when they say no.” > [@Treis, no means no.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556/415): > > My argument was more or less that no doesn’t always mean no. … In this case, her no meeant “Yes, but I don’t want **treis** to think I’m a slut”. According to treis, a man following a woman around her appartment for 15 or 20 minutes and making repeated attempts to coerce her into sex (after she has explicitly and clearly told him that was not happening, and he professed to understand) is perfectly OK and to be expected. > [@treis](#): > > The guy got mixed signals, came to the wrong conclusion, made his move, and apparently left without much of a fuss after he got shot down. He’s not exactly what I call a monster. > [@Treis, no means no.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556/464): > > In MOL’s case, no I don’t think it’s inherently wrong to try something given the situation. … I don’t think there is much disagreement about what I mean. Just, apparently, what is an acceptable follow up. … --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guys-y-u-no-listen/655424)._