# GW Bush Wins In A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 11, 2000, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494 "2000-10-11T02:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/61 "2000-10-26T01:50:09Z")
I’m guessing Hastur’s problems stem for one of the following: One: He can’t afford his meds, so he is hoping for a Gore win to keep him sedated for free. Two: He is in a complete meltdown as he watches Gore crash and burn. A feeling of complete vulnerability is sweeping over him as he contemplates at least 2 years under a Republican controlled gov’t. Either way, I can understand his lashing out. **Just hold on Hastur, things will be OK.** ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/62 "2000-10-26T03:31:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freedom2 \* > \*\*I’m guessing Hastur’s problems stem for one of the following: > One: He can’t afford his meds, so he is hoping for a Gore win to keep him sedated for free. > > Two: He is in a complete meltdown as he watches Gore crash and burn. A feeling of complete vulnerability is sweeping over him as he contemplates at least 2 years under a Republican controlled gov’t. > Either way, I can understand his lashing out. > > **Just hold on Hastur, things will be OK.** \*\* You have my cordial invitation to bite me, you patronizing bastard. It amazes me that Bush followers fail to listen to anything substantial that is said about him. Instead, you wish to follow him blindly into hell. His father was a lousy president and Dubya is even less qualified. I am just fine, and if anyone needs medication to be grounded in reality, it is the dolts on here who fail to see fact and reason. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/63 "2000-10-26T08:45:42Z")
We’ll listen to facts and reason when you present some to us. As it is, “Texas is THIS bad, and THIS horrible, blah blah blah” doesn’t really cut it. And it doesn’t really help when you preceded that with “Well, you disagree with me, so you’re obviously ignorant.” So, sir, where are these “facts” and this “reason” that you make vague allusions to having made? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/64 "2000-10-26T08:58:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly \* > \*\*We’ll listen to facts and reason when you present some to us. As it is, “Texas is THIS bad, and THIS horrible, blah blah blah” doesn’t really cut it. And it doesn’t really help when you preceded that with “Well, you disagree with me, so you’re obviously ignorant.” > > So, sir, where are these “facts” and this “reason” that you make vague allusions to having made? \*\* Spoofe, I listed a link to The Texas Observer’s Bush Files at: [http://www.bushfiles.com/bush\_toc.html](http://www.bushfiles.com/bush_toc.html) I think they support my position and what I said quite well. When I see links in people’s posts, I read them. I question whether anyone on here read anything on there at all. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/65 "2000-10-26T09:09:44Z")
My my. Such an unbiased link you provided, Hastur! Such a compellingly neutral source of information! I have some compellingly neutral sites as well: [http://www.hereliesalgore.com/](http://www.hereliesalgore.com/) [http://www.gorewillsayanything.com/gorelies.htm](http://www.gorewillsayanything.com/gorelies.htm) :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/66 "2000-10-26T10:00:20Z")
At least my link was from a Texas paper which is directly affect by Dubya… ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/67 "2000-10-26T14:23:26Z")
And those links were from the internet which was invented by Gore.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SouthernStyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@SouthernStyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SouthernStyle)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/68 "2000-10-26T14:41:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \<\\> > > ``` > 50th in spending for teachers' salaries > 49th in spending on the environment > 48th in per-capita funding for public health > 47th in delivery of social services > > ``` > > \<\\> Several years ago, (coincidentally, it was right before election time), an article in the paper criticized Florida for it’s spending habits on teacher salaries and education which were very similar to the one’s posted for Texas (above). As I recall, we were in the 45 to 49 range. My first reaction was “why aren’t we dead last?” Why is it that the left measures a government’s success by _spending_ instead of _accomplishments_??? ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/69 "2000-10-26T14:55:57Z")
\*\*stolichnaya, \*\*, \*\*RTFirefly \*\* Waaaaay earlier in this thread we did a minor sidetrack about the polls and the way they weight Republicans and Democrats. RtFirefly scoffed at the idea and called the author a “klutz” Today I saw an article that addresses the exact same question: > **[Opinion & Reviews - Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/news/opinion)** > > Get The Wall Street Journal’s Opinion columnists, editorials, op-eds, letters to the editor, and book and arts reviews. > [@](#): > > They might be even more skeptical of Gallup’s tracking poll if they knew that the swings are due in large part to the company’s nightly sample having large fluctuations in how many Democrats vs. Republicans are interviewed. One three-night sample, on Oct. 4, had 37% Democrats and 30% Republicans. Perhaps not surprisingly, Al Gore had an 11-point lead. Three nights later, on Oct. 7, a completely new sample consisted of 39% Republicans and only 31% Democrats. Lo and behold, George W. Bush suddenly had an eight-point lead. Typical exit polls of actual voters, taken as they leave the polls, show the parties evenly matched or with just a point or two advantage for Democrats. I now return you to your regularly scheduled debate. ---
**Author:** ![Zarathustra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/898d66/32.png) [@Zarathustra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zarathustra)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2000, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/70 "2000-10-27T03:12:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freedom2 \* > \*\*And those links were from the internet which was invented by Gore.🙂 \*\* That was a priceless comeback. LOL and all that . . . sorry, just had to say that, pls carry on, gentlemen . . . ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/71 "2000-10-31T00:18:33Z")
Only one more week. Does anybody have any predictions on the outcome? Here are mine: \*\*GW wins and gets over 400 EC votes. Bush takes California. None of the third parties get 5%. (Nader included) The Republicans keep the house and the Senate. The NY Senate race will be a squeaker, 2% either way. I think my hate for Hillary may be blinding my objectivity here, but this one is to close for me to call. Lieberman keeps his Senate seat. Alaska legalizes marijuana.\*\* I can’t think of anything else to predict. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/72 "2000-10-31T07:55:28Z")
Well, here is how the Election is shaping up. According to the most recent Field Poll: Gore 17\* states— 224 electoral votes(counts DC as a St.) Bush 25 states— 214 electoral votes undecided 9 st----100 votes Thus even if GW wins every single undecided state-it will by no means be a “Landslide”. Split them 50-50, and Gore wins. They would have to go 40-60 Gore/Bush to be a tie. (if there is a tie- GW will win it- each State gets 1 vote then) I had predicted Gore winning by a modest # of electoral votes, but having only a plurality of the popular vote. My guess now is that Gore will just squeak by in the Electoral college (or possible lose, but by a couple votes) but that GW will actually have more popular votes than Gore, even if Gore wins. UNLESS- Nader throws his votes to Gore- then a modest, but comfortable Gore victory, OR if either cand really f\*cks-up big time (more likely to be GW than Gore- but who knows?) Freedom: I’ll bet you that GW neither gets a “landslide” (over 400 electoral votes) or wins in CA. If I win- you promise to not whimper, whine complain or bitch about Gore (here)- if I lose the same goes but me re GW- Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/73 "2000-10-31T15:51:49Z")
Sure I’ll make a bet. But first, I just want to throw in here that I think Nader has nothing to do with a Gore loss. I think Bush will get over 50% of the vote, so even if Gore got 100% of Nader’s votes, he still would have lost. In addition, from what I have seen, a bunch of Nader voters are first time voters, so their votes for him do not come from what Gore would have been expecting as his base. **About the Bet** I saw someone else around here that had to add something to their signature when they lost. I would go for something like that. The signature could say something like: > [@](#): > > If you see me whining about \*\*\*\* Please report me to \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*. (link to this page)(add some other embarrasing stuff here) I would figure that the bet would include leaving that in your signature until inaguration? (Jan 20) I did notice that you picked the things to vote about that have the spread the most heavily in your favor. I don’t think Bush could get 400 with California, and vice versa, so to me that is almost the same thing. I would like to add something in there about the popular vote. It looks to me like you are calling the popular vote witin 2%-advantage Gore. I would make a straight bet that Bush takes over 50% and wins by over 5%. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2000, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/74 "2000-11-01T08:34:55Z")
OK, see, you said that Bush would win in a landslide, and win CA. Thus, I am betting he will not (unless something very strange happens, like Gore is found schutping an intern). I’ll go along with the sig. Bush COULD win the election. He could even win by 5%. But he will NOT win in a landslide (ie 400 EC votes). This, IMHO is a 'cinch" bet. ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2000, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/75 "2000-11-01T14:31:42Z")
> [@](#): > > But he will NOT win in a landslide (ie 400 EC votes). This, IMHO is a 'cinch" bet. What’s the sig going to say? ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/76 "2000-11-02T05:54:50Z")
Dubya’s not going to win this one. Oh, it’s going to be close, but I think Gore’s going to take it. Gore’s going to win the electoral vote much more handily than he will the popular vote, but the election will make Albert Gore the 43rd president of the United States. According to my predictions, Gore will get just over 300 electoral votes. I made a page to illustrate my predictions for statewide turnout on November 7: [My state-by-state predictions for 2000.](http://www.geocities.com/nuclearfurniture/Election2000/soothsaying.html) John Corzine will win the New Jersey Senate seat. Mel Carnahan’s widow will win the Missouri Senate seat. Hillary Clinton will wil the New York Senate seat. The outcomes I’m predicting for the presidential and the aforementioned Senatoral elections all would please me very much. I also predict that the Republicans will keep the House and the Senate, though I’m not thrilled about that. In a way, the Republicans are getting the presidency, too, according to my predictions, since Al Gore is pretty much a Republican. There has never been a viable political left in the United States. Will Ralph Nader change that? Ah, who knows? He won’t change that _this_ time around, I predict. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/77 "2000-11-02T07:04:03Z")
I just want to say that I read in Time today that the whole election will be decided by the “I-4 corridor” in Central Florida. According to them, whoever takes I-4 will take the state, whoever takes Florida wins the election. I live half a mile from said interstate. I can be bought. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/78 "2000-11-02T07:05:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freedom2 \* > \*\* > My prediction: > > Bush 53% > Gore 44% > Assorted Heroes 5% > > \*\* Is your prediction for Chicago? “Bring out your dead…and vote!” That’s a total of 102%!!!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/79 "2000-11-02T08:35:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freedom2 \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > But he will NOT win in a landslide (ie 400 EC votes). This, IMHO is a 'cinch" bet. > > What’s the sig going to say? \*\* Since I am taking the cinch odds, i’ll let you pick. It does not need to be a sig- just no whining, etc, until after the 1st 100 days in office. After that, we can take off the gloves. I’ll be reasonable, whoever loses only has to use the sig for a month- but still no bitching for 100 days in office (they call that the “honeymoon”). ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2000, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/80 "2000-11-02T15:15:41Z")
Is this a tame enough sig line? > [@](#): > > If you see me whining about (winning candidate) Please report me to (winner of the bet). Read about [the Bet I lost](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?action=newreply&threadid=41799) over here. The sig line stays in until Inugauration, No whining until Nov 7th + 100, or Jan. 20th + 100? The Bet is a straight bet on Bush getting 400 votes in the EC. \*\*Chance the Gardener \*\* I would be happy to include you in this. If you are sure enough about the results to build a web page, then a little bet on the SD should be no big deal. **Furt** If Daniel contacts you, I would like a chance to bid as well.🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494.md?page=5)