# GW Bush Wins In A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 11, 2000, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494 "2000-10-11T02:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/121 "2000-11-07T13:52:05Z")
**divemaster** , check out [http://www.zogby.com](http://www.zogby.com) right now.That’s the poll that MSNBC and Reuters uses. They have the numbers at 48% Gore, 46% Bush, 5% Nader. * * * [sub]PS, I just came back from my polling place (next door!). I did my part to help Freedom2 lose his bet! ;)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/122 "2000-11-07T13:56:59Z")
Zogby is the **ONLY** poll that has Gore up. He has sold his credibility to Gore this election cycle. I wonder what this poll cost Gore. Strangely, Zogby also has Florida and California either going for Bush, or to close to call. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/123 "2000-11-07T14:02:43Z")
Make that **two** , Freedom! The CBS News poll has Gore ahead by two points! ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/124 "2000-11-07T14:03:22Z")
Link? Are you sure that is not the same poll? ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/125 "2000-11-07T14:05:28Z")
Tracking Polls - 11/7/00 Bush Up 6.0% Bush Gore RCP Tracking - 11/7 47.5 41.5 Battleground - 11/6 46.0 37.0 Rasmussen - 11/7 48.9 39.8 Zogby/MSNBC - 11/7 46.0 48.0 Gallup/CNN - 11/7 48.0 46.0 ABC/WP - 11/7 48.0 45.0 IBD/TIPP - 11/7 47.9 46.0 [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/) ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/126 "2000-11-07T14:06:02Z")
and strike that above sentence. Gore has a [one point](http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,247530-412,00.shtml) lead (but it’s still a lead) in the CBS News poll. 45% Gore, 44% Bush, 4% Nader ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/127 "2000-11-07T14:29:24Z")
Maybe it’ll be a tie! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/128 "2000-11-07T14:35:27Z")
Just looking for some bet clarifications. DITWD, you do realize that if Bush wins, but not with 400 votes, Gore won’t be around at all anyway for Freedom2 to be able to bitch about? Freedom2, if this election isn’t even close to a landslide, what will you say about all those bunk polls that you keep quoting? Get out the vote people. Either way, the country will not be going to hell in a handbasket, but what really is on the line is our country’s self-respect by way of voter-turnout. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/129 "2000-11-07T15:28:34Z")
OK, it looks like I missed the Zogby poll showing Gore edging ahead; but maybe that can be forgiven, since Daniel cited MSNBC? (:)). I saw a link citing a Reuters/MSNBC poll with a 2% Gore lead, but interestingly enough, MSNBC itself doesn’t seem to have it on their web site. Maybe the link has misattributed the Florida results to a national trend. Does Zogby really have Bush up in CA? ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/130 "2000-11-07T15:36:23Z")
Ok. Zogby and Cbs have Gore ahead. > [@](#): > > Freedom2, if this election isn’t even close to a landslide, what will you say about all those bunk polls that you keep quoting? Maybe you could help me out. Before the results come in, could you tell me which polls exactly you think are “bunk”? Then maybe you could tell me why you think they are “bunk”. I guess my real qurstion you would be: “What will you say about media bias when Bush wins by an electoral landlside?” ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/131 "2000-11-07T17:50:15Z")
I think the media are biased enough as it is. If the media were truly biased against Shrub, they surely would have been able to come up with a full arsenal to use against this clod. The media seem to think that Shrub has something to say, and they treat him accordingly. Sounds like pro-_Bush_ bias to me. ---
**Author:** ![Freedom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/132 "2000-11-07T23:58:07Z")
I broke down and voted Bush. I was succumbed to the illusion that my vote mattered. At the moment of truth, I realized that if I voted for Browne, Bush would lose my state by 1 vote. This would not only cost him his 400 ec votes, but it would somehow spiral into a domino effect, and possibly cost him the entire election. This would doom the country to 4 years under Gore, and more importantly, I would lose any possible respect I had on the SD. The prospect of searching for another forum as good as this one was unbearable to me. After leaving the polling place and regaining my senses, I realized that it will take a miracle for any third party to become a lasting force in this country. Peer pressure is a force, even when you are in a voting booth, all alone, and your individual action will have no effect either way. God bless Nader, I hope he gets 5% and leads the way. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/133 "2000-11-08T00:57:32Z")
**You wuss!** The The DemRep’s have run again, snookering a vote that was entitled to a third party. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@Jello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jello)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/134 "2000-11-08T02:09:39Z")
Looks like Daniel, Chance and I win: Gore has 192 electoral votes so far, making it impossible for Bush to get 400. Po’ Freedom 2. Sadly, Nader’s only at 2%… ☹ ☹ ☹ ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/135 "2000-11-08T02:12:51Z")
Gore got Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania so far(at least according to projections) …not looking good for Dubya Still possible for a popular vote/electoral vote difference at this hour ---
**Author:** ![Jello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@Jello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jello)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/136 "2000-11-08T02:19:20Z")
Yeah, according to CNN’s website it’s 185-182 Bush, but he’s up over a million in popular votes. ---
**Author:** ![Akatsukami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@Akatsukami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akatsukami)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/137 "2000-11-08T02:23:42Z")
At 2115 EST, CNN is listing Bush as leading 52%-46%. They have Gore leading 192-153 in the electoral vote. They are, however giving both Florida and Michigan to Gore, despite the fact that Bush is leading strongly in both states now, and has been for some time. In Michigan, it may well be too early to call so close a contest, but, unless a lot of strongly Democratic precincts have yet to report in Florida, that state’s 25 electoral votes may have to be switched to Bush. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/138 "2000-11-08T02:24:24Z")
Well it looks like Bush got Ohio, and Tennessee. And the campaign got the courts to order polls closed in Missouri. The vote will be contested there for sure depending on who wins. Shame that Chuck Robb lost to George Allen here. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/139 "2000-11-08T02:32:34Z")
and Freedom2 LOST! COOL! (like there was ever a question! 400 electoral? Talk about hubris! stoid ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494/140 "2000-11-08T03:20:20Z")
Yeah, at least if Bush does win (which is still just possible), a landslide is out of the question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gw-bush-wins-in-a-landslide/36494.md?page=8)