# GWB: The Greatest President Since Abraham Lincoln

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 16, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371 "2004-04-16T15:19:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![MrTuffPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MrTuffPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrTuffPaws)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/41 "2004-04-16T22:44:46Z")

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**Libertarian**

Truly a great thing. Thank you so much.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/42 "2004-04-16T23:09:47Z")

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> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> I just wanted to make sure no one took it to mean that he was the greatest since Carter. 😃

No worries. Most folks around here don’t even think he’s been the greatest president since Clinton.  
😛

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/43 "2004-04-16T23:20:06Z")

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Will someone kindly strike the “aren’t” from the previous sentence? Thanks…

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/44 "2004-04-16T23:30:30Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Thanks, Shib, but no. Actually, I pay them. $4.95 a year. 😉

Wow, that was great! But I didn’t know they still had the tape recorder running in the Oval Office.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/45 "2004-04-16T23:34:37Z")

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> Her argument for that was that GWB, like Lincoln, stuck to his principles when the polls were against him. Or something like that. Maybe.

I’m more offended by the ignorance this shows of Lincoln than of anything else. Must we have cartoon visions of EVERYTHING now?

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**Author:** ![zwaldd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a9adbd/32.png) [@zwaldd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zwaldd)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/46 "2004-04-16T23:42:27Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> And props to **Libertarian** for a giggle-worthy skit.

It’s funny 'cause it’s not false.

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/47 "2004-04-17T00:08:02Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> _In the oval office…_
> 
> Chief of Staff Andrew Card: Mr. President?
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> Bush: […stares blankly ahead at the wall…]
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> \<snip\>
> 
> Cheney: Thank you, Mr. President.

You know, I could swear black and blue that if you put the voice of Smithers to Andrew Card, and the voice of Mr Burns to GWB in that skit and the voice of the Mayor to Dick Cheny, you could just visualise it playing out so humourously on the Simpsons…

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/48 "2004-04-17T00:27:38Z")

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**Lib** , that read like something out of “Doonesbury: The Reagan Years”😃

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/49 "2004-04-17T00:36:53Z")

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Gotta admit, Lib.

Home run, man…home run.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/50 "2004-04-17T00:44:54Z")

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Bush is the greatest president since Clinton.

[sub]Note: Since this is a sample of one, it’s not an actual achievement.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/51 "2004-04-17T00:48:59Z")

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Beautiful, Libertarian. SNL needs you.

Just wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/52 "2004-04-17T01:41:48Z")

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**Libertarian’s** post: best thing I’ve read on this board in a long while. Applause.

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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/53 "2004-04-17T21:07:24Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li]Both of their names begin with a letter of the alphabet.[/li][li]They were both born in the United States of America.[/li][li]They were both inaugurated in Washington, D.C. which is, get this, the CAPITAL of the United States of America.[/li][/ul]
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> I could go on, but why bother? Blind. All of you are blind. The parallels are amazing.

I’m with you here:

Both were “war presidents”  
Both had detractors  
Both had supporters  
Both were fucking morons, oops, that one doesn’t actually apply to both

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/54 "2004-04-18T00:47:02Z")

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Don’t we ever get to stop hearing the GOP partisans claiming theirs is “the party of Lincoln”? That hasn’t been true in any meaningful sense since the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/55 "2004-04-18T03:48:25Z")

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Party of Lincoln, party of Cadillac. Whatever.

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/56 "2004-04-18T03:49:17Z")

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But all of a sudden it is relevant that the GOP is the party of Warren G. Harding, Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover, to say nothing of William McKinley. Anybody remember the Philippine Insurrection?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/57 "2004-04-18T19:02:46Z")

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Hell, remember the Philippine _colonization_? “Take up the White Man’s burden” and all that? The artificially-induced war fever over the sinking of the _Maine_, for that matter? McKinley is a damn fine role model for today’s version of his party, at least internationally, and props to \*\*Spav \*\* for pointing it out.

But let’s keep going with this just for fun:

For willingness to circumvent the election process in order to gain office, Bush is the head of “The Party of Hayes”.

For domestic policies targeted at the gain of friends and contributors at the expense of the nation, he’s the head of “The Party of Grant”, but “The Party of Harding” works just as well.

For the seriousness with which he has taken the seriousness of the economy and unemployment, yep, you got “The Party of Hoover” about right - except that Hoover at least tried a little.

For the way he has run, or let be run, the White House in terms of identifying and punishing perceived enemies, as well as ignoring the principles we believe we stand for in foreign policy, Bush is the head of “The Party of Nixon”.

This is fun - anybody got some other good ones?

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/58 "2004-04-18T21:55:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _originally posted by stolichnaya_
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> Beautiful, Libertarian. SNL needs you.
> 
> Just wonderful.

It’s far too funny for saturday night live. It really is a work of art, **Lib**.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwb-the-greatest-president-since-abraham-lincoln/240371/59 "2004-04-18T23:11:45Z")

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Lincoln wore a hat  
Lincoln had an ass

GWB - you can see where this one goes …

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