# Gwen Ifill to release book featuring Obama in January. WTF?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 1, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966 "2008-10-01T04:11:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/161 "2008-10-01T21:42:19Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> You’re right, though. It’s more rational than the premise of the thread.

Welcome to **magellan** land, and join me in looking forward to the end of the season with great sadness.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/162 "2008-10-01T21:42:39Z")

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Has anyone checked to see if Rachel Maddow has any time open on her schedule that night?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/163 "2008-10-01T21:44:38Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> I doubt the debate would halt just due to a change in moderator, particularly if the change supposedly favors Palin.

There’s no way the change would favor Palin. She’s been practicing to face Ifill as much as she’s been practicing to face Biden.

Biden would have a much easier time adjusting to a new moderator than Palin would.

Not only that, but if there were a change that people perceived to benefit Palin, the bar would be higher.

The McCain camp is foolish, but not foolish enough to go ahead with a debate with a different moderator.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/164 "2008-10-01T21:44:41Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> That’s got to be one of the most bizarre tangents in SDMB history.

Have you seen the Desert Walrus in the [Olmert Israel Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=485727)in GD?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/165 "2008-10-01T21:48:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Has anyone checked to see if Rachel Maddow has any time open on her schedule that night?

Can she lie on her back with her hips over her head?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/166 "2008-10-01T21:51:52Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> Can she lie on her back with her hips over her head?

I have to admit, my first thought was - no, you’re not going to make _Rachel Maddow_ pee in her own face! Then I realized we were back to talking about moderators. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/167 "2008-10-01T21:53:55Z")

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Okay, how about Mélissa Theuriau?  
Moderator? Peeing? Sure, whatever.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/168 "2008-10-01T21:56:54Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> - Lay on back
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> - Lift hips up and above head
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> - Adjust as necessary to get angle right as it comes back down
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> [sup]Can’t believe I am having this discussion but this is the Pit afterall and it makes more sense than Ifill being biased.[/sup]

It is very important to remember that you need to breathe through your mouth when doing this. Srsly.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/169 "2008-10-01T21:58:39Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> :smack: I _had_ to get curious. :smack:

I’m sure there are websites specifically dedicated to it. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/170 "2008-10-01T21:59:05Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It is very important to remember that you need to breathe through your mouth when doing this. Srsly.

And you know this because…

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/171 "2008-10-01T22:03:25Z")

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> [@steve mb](#):
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> i’m sure there are websites specifically dedicated to it. :eek:

Way TMI!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/172 "2008-10-01T22:05:37Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Tom Brokaw has a much, much bigger financial stake in McCain being elected, assuming he’s still pulling down seven figures (or even high six).
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> If the financial stake is really the sticking point here, why should Ifill recuse herself but not Brokaw?

Because tax policy is supposed to apply to all citizens, and all citizens can vote. Writing a book that will make significantly more money if a candidate wins is something that a supposedly objective moderator should not be subject to.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/173 "2008-10-01T22:16:34Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> ETA: But the big question is: can a man sit or stand straight and pee into his own face, assuming he’s looking down?

U.P.: up.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/174 "2008-10-01T22:17:01Z")

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Clearly, she should recuse herself. No one with her irresistable profit motive _and_ her unchecked power over the pliable minds of the American electorate should be allowed anywhere _near_ a podium…

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/175 "2008-10-01T22:19:00Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Because tax policy is supposed to apply to all citizens, and all citizens can vote. Writing a book that will make significantly more money if a candidate wins is something that a supposedly objective moderator should not be subject to.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I am just a bit curious as to HOW you think she will tilt the debate in Biden’s favor? And what effect it would have on the campaign.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/176 "2008-10-01T22:31:50Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Because tax policy is supposed to apply to all citizens, and all citizens can vote. Writing a book that will make significantly more money if a candidate wins is something that a supposedly objective moderator should not be subject to.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Significantly? She will be lucky to make [$1-$1.50](http://www.crystalreportsbook.com/SelfPublishing_02.asp) for each book sold. So how many copies do you think she will sell? And how many more if Obama becomes president?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/177 "2008-10-01T22:32:58Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Welcome to **magellan** land, and join me in looking forward to the end of the season with great sadness.

Ah, **Cervaise** , the great cowardly sniping assface. You come in here, and follow me around elsewhere to register your displeasure with me. Though mighty tears fall from my eyes, you never offer any substance. This thread is a perfect example. You just drop your snide little stupidity, but never prove why what you say is to be taken seriously. There is a debate here. Proof of that is that people have actually weighed in in that regard. But you seek to dismiss, rather than disprove; insult rather than investigate; be an asshole instead of a contributor.

At least you’re consistent. Don’t stop being you.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/178 "2008-10-01T22:35:59Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> You’re right, though. It’s more rational than the premise of the thread.

Why don’t you then point out the premise and show where it is irrational. Not just wrong, mind you, in your estimation, but irrational.

You can, of course, sidle up to the sniping **Cervaise** and adopt his “style”. Your choice.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/179 "2008-10-01T22:42:44Z")

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Uh tumuhfuhyuh yuhyuhuh Uhfuh!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gwen-ifill-to-release-book-featuring-obama-in-january-wtf/465966/180 "2008-10-01T22:46:46Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’m not tough. I’m just not a stupid hunk of partisan shit like yourself.

I’m a registered Independent. Never voted for Bush and am not thrilled with McCain, so you’d be wrong there.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> The FACT is you’re whining and grasping at straws because you can’t come to terms with the FACT that the bullshit you’ve been spouting and mindlessly parroting your whole life is ignorant drivel.

Now you know what I’v been spouting my whole life? Tell me, what did I tell my boss when he told me he wanted Bush as the candidate in 2000?

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Obama losing could easily spur booksales, because people will be wondering how much racism had to do with it.

It _could_, yes. But that’s not the point. The point is that based on book sales have gone in the past, and barring some unseen event, book sales will go up if Obama wins. Logic favors that scenario, even if it allows for the other.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Because face it, the conservative candidate is a fucking failure, his veep is an uneducated creationist and America should be smarter than electing those two numbnuts.

McCain is a failure? Wow, you have an interesting definition of failure. Not one based on reality, but interesting nonetheless. And to say that Pain is uneducated simply reveals YOUR partisan bias. You may believe she is not up to the job, or not sufficiently educated from and academics standpoint for it, but “un”. No, hun, sorry.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Please feel free to rattle off your ignorant ass talking points in response.

“ignorant ass” should be hyphenated. So, I guess that makes you the ignorant one. I win!:rolleyes:

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