# gytalf2000, are you a serial killer waiting to happen?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496 "2007-07-20T05:14:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/81 "2007-07-21T10:43:57Z")

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[QUOTE=betenoir]  
🙂 Well you’ve made my day. I was just about to complain I post about my kinks constantly and what does it take to get a rep around here. Why should Evil Captor get to be the be the chief perv? And gytalf2000 just got here! I’m a longstanding Doper perv.  
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**bbs2k** , keeping track of all the deviant dopers since 2001!

🆒

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/82 "2007-07-21T13:41:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
“Leave my fantasies alone!” he ejaculated.  
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I love you.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/83 "2007-07-21T15:00:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Mosier]  
That’s pretty fucking creepy. How do knockout fantasies that do not end in sex actually end? If there’s no sex, is there still an orgasm? How do you know when to stop? Is it just the being unconscious that turns you on, or the actual “knockout” part of it? Do sleeping women turn you on? What the FUCK is wrong with you, anyway?  
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I agree – it is creepy, unusual, bizarre, and does not make sense. Nevertheless, it is part (not all, mind you) of what I am, and has been since I was a prepubescent.

Sleeping women – a little bit of a turn-on, (any pic of an attractive woman in any situation is nice) but the feeling is much more intense when my “triggers” are present. The triggers include : the woman being a superheroine in a skimpy outfit, a knockout of any sort (as long as it is not presented in a realistic fashion that results in blood and bruises), a nice, well-lit carry scene, followed by a bondage scene.

I do not need anything overtly sexual to happen in my KO scenario. I know that sounds strange to most people, but paraphilias do not have to make sense.

In my mind, my heroines always escape or are rescued somehow, and wind up beating and capturing the villain. I do not have my artists depict the escape/villain beatdown, because I like to imagine a slightly different scenario for each “session”. I just have them draw that part of the adventure that turns me on sexually.

As for what is wrong with me – I suppose the answer would be “Plenty!”

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/84 "2007-07-22T01:49:35Z")

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[QUOTE=bigbabysweets2000]  
So I think **betenoir** is kinky because I think she’s attractive, and I think **Captor** is creepy because he’s a dude who does sexual things **that would make me uncomfortable.** Is that fair? No, not really. But that’s just how I’m put together.  
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Oh, come on, I’m really good with ropes. You wouldn’t be aware you were wearing anything at all … like that bra commercial ad they used to run … only mildly kinkier.

(last bit of bolding mine – EC)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/85 "2007-07-22T05:38:14Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
To Johnny Hildo :

I cannot blame you for getting a bit skeeved out by my fetish. As others have pointed out, it is different and creepy. There is plenty of real-life violence against women going on in this world, and I figure that it is normal to be at least a bit creeped out by someone who fantasizes about knocking women out. It is simply not normal to have these fantasies.

And yet – I have had them for as long as I can remember. As stated before, I am a paraphiliac who has substituted a forbidden activity for normal sex. The knockout/capture does not lead to sex – it replaces it.

I have never particularly enjoyed kissing, and I do not find genitalia visually attractive. I have only dated three women in my entire life – we actually got along very well, but the relationships fizzled out for various reasons. I have never had sex – at least as “normal” people define sex.

I was raised by a very loving mother. My father died a few weeks after I was born, so I never knew him. Perhaps the absence of a father figure could be a contributing factor to developing odd fetishes.

I was raised in a fundamentalist household (Church of Christ). Even though I was extremely skeptical about many tenets of conventional religion from a pretty early age, I internalized the “don’ts” pretty well – no drinking, no cursing, no sex outside of marriage, etc. I have considered that this upbringing could definitely be a factor in my perversity.

The fact that I have this unusual fetish once bothered me a bit more than it does now – although it never bothered me that much, since I do not have a “tortured soul” mentality. I eventually figured out that, since I actually get along very well with women in real life, and have zero desire to harm anyone, I did not need to worry about my KO fetish.

I do realize that I am an unusual person. I am sure that there are individuals with my exact same fetishes who have decided to act on them in real life, and as a consequence became serial killers. At one of the sites that I frequent, the “Chloroforum”, we regularly have folks that inquire about obtaining real chloroform. We have to tell them that we only like the fantasy aspect of KO scenes, and have no desire to harm anyone. We attempt to dissuade them from taking the fetish to the next step, since chloroform is a dangerous substance and can lead to death.

Well, this has been a long post. And I have used no exclamation points. I hope that I have enlightened you about my bizarre and deviant sexual desires.

Take care.

gytalf2000  
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You sad, pathetic bitch. Big fuckin surprise that a boy like you has mommy issues.

Also, several Dopers seem to have rape fetishes. Alert your neighborhood to these pathetic slaptards.

[QUOTE=gytralf2000]

Sleeping women – a little bit of a turn-on, (any pic of an attractive woman in any situation is nice) but the feeling is much more intense when my “triggers” are present. The triggers include : the woman being a superheroine in a skimpy outfit, a knockout of any sort (as long as it is not presented in a realistic fashion that results in blood and bruises), a nice, well-lit carry scene, followed by a bondage scene.

I do not need anything overtly sexual to happen in my KO scenario. I know that sounds strange to most people, but paraphilias do not have to make sense.

In my mind, my heroines always escape or are rescued somehow, and wind up beating and capturing the villain. I do not have my artists depict the escape/villain beatdown, because I like to imagine a slightly different scenario for each “session”. I just have them draw that part of the adventure that turns me on sexually.

As for what is wrong with me – I suppose the answer would be “Plenty!”

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You creepy fuckin Mary. If there’s not bodies in your freezer right now, I’ll eat my fuckin hat. Tell us more about your rape fantasies, bitch.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/86 "2007-07-22T05:45:43Z")

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I’d advise never checking out Savage Love, **Johnny Hildo**. I think it might just blow your little mind.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/87 "2007-07-22T05:54:04Z")

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DNFTT

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/88 "2007-07-22T15:17:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]  
You sad, pathetic bitch. Big fuckin surprise that a boy like you has mommy issues.

Also, several Dopers seem to have rape fetishes. Alert your neighborhood to these pathetic slaptards.

You creepy fuckin Mary. If there’s not bodies in your freezer right now, I’ll eat my fuckin hat. Tell us more about your rape fantasies, bitch.  
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Wow, what an amazing and insightful post!

Johnny, you continually astound me with your intelligent, sensitive analysis of my demented psyche. You seem like such a caring person. This sick, sad, sorry world needs more people like you. Have you ever thought of running for President?

BWA HA HA HA HA!

Take care!

Your loving friend,

gytalf2000

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/89 "2007-07-22T16:48:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
DNFTT  
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As much wisdom as there is to your point, I must admit that it is sometimes fun to act against it.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/90 "2007-07-22T17:13:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Mellivora capensis]  
Apropos nothing, but everytime I see the term “serial killer” I have these fantasies of clubbing Snap, Crackle and Pop to death.  
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I think we all know that what makes you a really disgusting freak is what you would like to do to them afterwards.

You sick fuck.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/91 "2007-07-22T17:14:58Z")

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Certainly gives a new meaning to milk in your breakfast cereal…

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/92 "2007-07-22T18:48:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
Certainly gives a new meaning to milk in your breakfast cereal…  
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But, as long as he doesn’t knock them out first, it’s okay. At least according to some in the thread.

What if he knocks them out, kills them, but doesn’t enjoy it?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/93 "2007-07-22T19:53:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]  
If there’s not bodies in your freezer right now, I’ll eat my fuckin hat. Tell us more about your rape fantasies, bitch.  
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Eat my shorts! Your the only one who has rape fantasies, [Johnny Dildo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8804396&postcount=10).

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/94 "2007-07-22T20:19:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]

You creepy fuckin Mary. If there’s not bodies in your freezer right now, I’ll eat my fuckin hat. Tell us more about your rape fantasies, bitch.  
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Here’s your hat, what’s yor hurry?

I guess my rape fantasies mean I’ve persuaded actuaul rape many times.

Everyone’s fantasies are weird to other people. Like their,desire to eat mushrooms(ick!).He has said ad infinitem he would never act on it and moreover everv encorags other people not to take it too far farther. Most people think about things that would make your toenails curl. (Perhapes you sholdn’t leave the house!) Tit for tat. What do you fantisies about?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/95 "2007-07-22T23:40:41Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]

Oh dear, my exclamation points are back! Perhaps I deserve a second pitting!  
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Tie me up and pit me! More, more, I’m still not satisfied! (Oh - !!!)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/96 "2007-07-23T00:17:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
DNFTT  
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At this point, I think you’ll have to be more specific.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/97 "2007-07-23T02:43:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
At this point, I think you’ll have to be more specific.  
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Man, troll porn is so hot! How else am I supposed to get off on it if I can’t feed them?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/98 "2007-07-23T08:19:56Z")

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[QUOTE=bigbabysweets2000]  
Don’t take that the wrong way, what I meant to say was… well there is this one poster, who was “mentioned” earlier (not by name) who sort of has a reputation for sharing TMI with regards to his pornographical preference. Due to this he now carries that label, so no matter where he posts or even on what topic everyone instantly thinks of this about him. It could be a thread with NOTHING to do with porn, but when we see his name that’s the first thing some of us think about.  
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I keep hearing this about **Evil Captor** , but I’ve never seen him say anything about bondage (or whatever) in any thread except those where people have already brought it up. I’m assuming I’ve missed some old threads where he actually did bring it up, perhaps from the before time, in the long long ago. Can anybody supply me with links to threads where I can read about **EC** ’s sick twisted … uh … sicktwistedism?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/99 "2007-07-23T08:22:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]  
You sad, pathetic bitch. Big fuckin surprise that a boy like you has mommy issues.

Also, several Dopers seem to have rape fetishes. Alert your neighborhood to these pathetic slaptards.

You creepy fuckin Mary. If there’s not bodies in your freezer right now, I’ll eat my fuckin hat. Tell us more about your rape fantasies, bitch.  
[/QUOTE]

Knock yourself out. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gytalf2000-are-you-a-serial-killer-waiting-to-happen/412496/100 "2007-07-23T09:45:03Z")

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I’ve been kind of following this thread since the beginning and I have to say, that the pitter comes across as sad, while the pittee comes across as pretty fucking well adjusted. He has a kink, is okay with it, doesn’t bother other people, and seems pretty damn cheerful about the whole thing.

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