# H. G. Wells and Jules Verne

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 26, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227 "2002-03-26T20:21:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![MickNickMaggies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@MickNickMaggies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MickNickMaggies)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/21 "2002-03-28T04:22:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> \*\*The guy wrote so much I’m amazed he found time to commit all that adultery. \*\*

:hijack:  
And so much of that with Rebecca West…  
My prof edited a collection of her letters, so we got to see all the “panther” letters…  
Cyn

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/22 "2002-03-28T04:48:04Z")

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> ## Originally posted by CalMeacham The Island of Doctor Moreau – ignore all film versions. \*\*
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> Nice rundown, chum…except for the above line.
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> ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1933) is one of the GREAT pre-Code horror movies…as well as one of my top ten flicks of all time. Charles Laughton has never been so smarmily delicious.

I’ll stand by my statement. I’ve heard this about the Laughton version for years, but it wasn;t until a few years ago that I finally saw it – long after I read the book. Interesting i its own way, and ar more faithful to the book than the two later versions. But still not Wells’ vision.

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/23 "2002-03-28T04:57:52Z")

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You can find some works by both authors here: [http://www.litrix.com/](http://www.litrix.com/)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/24 "2002-03-28T13:02:08Z")

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Mr Wright-- I concede the date. But Mary Shelly’s creation is an inspiration for much that came after it. So, give the “steampunk” context, it was very appropriate to recommend it.  
And, I reapat in a louder voice, for a good Steampunk story–  
Also go to your local comics shop & try Girl Genius by Phil Foglio. Fun, funny, & suprisingly good science fiction.  
For more info go to–  
[http://www.studiofoglio.com/](http://www.studiofoglio.com/)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/25 "2002-03-28T14:25:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CalMeacham \*  
> \*\*Interesting i its own way…But still not Wells’ vision. \*\*

Well, okay, sure. But name ONE movie-of-a-novel that DID fufill the author’s vision (and no fair picking von Stroheim’s uncut version of Norris’s McTEAGUE, hacked to pieces and finally released as GREED).

A totally cool film nonetheless.

I also like John Huston’s MOBY DICK, and THAT sure as shit ain’t Melville’s vision.

Hijack over.

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**Author:** ![ScriptAnalyst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@ScriptAnalyst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScriptAnalyst)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/26 "2002-03-29T20:20:10Z")

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TANGENTIAL NOTE:

Whether Victorian or Georgian, FRANKENSTEIN is not science-fiction of any kind, as the novel has almost nothing to do with science. The assertiong that Mary Shelly’s book is “science-fiction” is a myth, based on the films that followed.

steve biodrowski  
[www.thescriptanalyst.com](http://www.thescriptanalyst.com)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/27 "2002-03-30T01:20:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ScriptAnalyst \*  
> \*\*TANGENTIAL NOTE:
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> Whether Victorian or Georgian, FRANKENSTEIN is not science-fiction of any kind, as the novel has almost nothing to do with science. The assertiong that Mary Shelly’s book is “science-fiction” is a myth, based on the films that followed.
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> steve biodrowski  
> [www.thescriptanalyst.com](http://www.thescriptanalyst.com) \*\*

Incorrect.

Mary Shelly was discussing a _scientist_ attempting to create artificial life.

**I** read it as science fiction, my college English Lit professors described it as science fiction, public libraries place it in science fiction, publishers label it science fiction…

everybody except you **Scripty**.

You know better. :wally

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h-g-wells-and-jules-verne/100227/28 "2002-03-30T14:53:09Z")

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Posted by Chronos:

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> - While The Time Machine was not the first time travel story (usually credited to A Christmas Carol, though I would consider the Greek tales about prophesy more significant), but it was the first science fiction time travel story, which has to count for something.

Great! I finally get to correct somebody on this! Wells actually wrote an earlier time-machine story, the short story “The Chronic Argonauts”.

I also recommend _The Sleeper Wakes_ (and a funny take-off by Ron Goulart, _The Waker Sleeps_).

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