# H2 = Tahoe

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 7, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131 "2003-10-07T19:01:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/1 "2003-10-07T19:01:11Z")

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A friend made the claim that the Hummer 2 is merely a Chevy Tahoe with a different body shell.

I recently saw a photo or the result of a head on crash between a H2 and a Dodge full sized pickup truck. I was suprised to see that the H2 had a lot More damage than the PU appeared to have.

Can any dopers confirm or discredit the H2=Tahoe story?

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**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/2 "2003-10-07T19:06:45Z")

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From \*[Car and Driver\*](http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=1842):

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> It will be built in a new AM General plant in Mishawaka, Indiana, to a design cribbed from the H1 but engineered primarily by GM on a Tahoe/Suburban platform to keep costs down. The team started with a Suburban frame, chopped 7.2 inches out of its midsection to fit a 122.8-inch wheelbase, and bobbed its overhangs to suit the H2’s 189.8-inch overall length (nine inches shorter than a Tahoe). The front control-arm and torsion-bar suspension is from a 2500-series Suburban. The 2000 H2 show car’s independent rear suspension was ditched for the Suburban’s live-axle, coil-spring, five-link setup.

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**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/3 "2003-10-07T19:18:37Z")

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Oh, lest somebody criticize that it’s vastly oversimplifying things. . .it is, certainly. There are a lot of special unique tweaks and developments on the H2, I suppose, things like pushing buttons to lock certain wheels and shift power from here to there, etc. So it’s not _merely_ a Tahoe in a different shell, but it _is_ heavily based on the Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon platform.

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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/4 "2003-10-07T19:26:43Z")

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Close enough that now I’m not suprised to see the amount of damage caused by the Dodge PU. I’d hate to see what a RPG would have done!

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/5 "2003-10-07T20:44:30Z")

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Ah, the H2. What a car. A fake Hummer made from a Chevy. Notice the plastic hubcaps look like they have some sort of device extending to one side? ([Look here](http://www.hummer.com/hummerjsp/h2/index.jsp)). Well, on the real Hummer (the H1) there is a device that allows the driver to raise and lower the tire pressure from within the vehicle (in some driving conditions, like on sand, you get better traction with a lower tire pressure). The H2 doesn’t have such a feature, but they’ve made the plastic hubcap so that it looks like it does. The Chevy H2 is loaded with those types of features.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/6 "2003-10-07T20:52:56Z")

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Take comfort, because most cars, even wayyyy cheaper models, share platforms with higher end models.

How about the Chrysler/Mercedes sharing…or my favorite, the Ford Contout disguised as a Jaguar. Yep, it’s Contour with a Jag body (the entry level 35k Jag)

Nissan’s lineup…360Z is a bloated pig because the platform is used for sedans as well and was designed to be used for sedans…adding weight.

The entire VW car line is one car with different bodies.

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**Author:** ![Ivar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ivar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivar)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/7 "2003-10-07T21:18:53Z")

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The VW platform thing isn’t entirely true, though close.

Shared platforms - VW - Golf, GTI, Cabrio, Beetle, Audi A3 and Audi TT. Plus various Seats and Skodas.

Another shared platform is the VW Jetta, Audi A4/S4, and again, various Seats and Skodas.

VW Passat - Audi A6 share as well.

In the case of the Nissan 350Z, it shares a platform with the Infiniti G35 coupe and sedan and, get this, the mini SUV offering called the FX 35 and FX 45.

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MarkD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/8 "2003-10-07T23:32:56Z")

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what platform is Chrysler sharing with Mercedes?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/9 "2003-10-07T23:37:32Z")

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This is nothing new. The 64 1/2 Mustang was built on a Ford Falcon frame.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/10 "2003-10-08T00:58:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MarkD \*  
> \*\*what platform is Chrysler sharing with Mercedes? \*\*

The Crossfire

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**Author:** ![sigSEGV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@sigSEGV](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sigSEGV)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/11 "2003-10-08T00:59:33Z")

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Visual proof that H2 != H1.

[http://files.funfreepages.com/videos/KilledIT.wmv](http://files.funfreepages.com/videos/KilledIT.wmv)

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/h2-tahoe/206131/12 "2003-10-08T02:32:32Z")

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And the Pacifica, which is based on some work I’ve done. But… not for long. Switching to Chrysler parts in the next year or so.
