# ha ha ha, Christianist dimwits, yes, "open forum" doesn't mean "Christianity only" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244 "2006-12-07T18:19:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/1 "2006-12-07T18:19:14Z")
[http://blog.au.org/2006/12/falwells\_flub\_j.html](http://blog.au.org/2006/12/falwells_flub_j.html) The short of it: on behalf of some complainants Jerry Fawell’s Liberty University sued a school that had a “Friday flyer” program for kids to take home group information, so as to allow Christian camps and such to advertise. Broken clock is right twice a day and all that, and they rightly won. However, now that another group has sent home information about pagan festivals via the same legal rationale, there is a raft of conservatives and Christianists up in arms about it. My favorite is the pastor who declares that the freedom for non-Christians to advertise instead of just Christians is why the public school system should be abandoned altogether. You nitwits really crack me up sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/2 "2006-12-07T18:27:12Z")
I have a friend that goes there and yeah the school is ridiculous. You are not allowed to watch rated R movies or drink alcohol and a bunch of other ridiculou stuff. Check out their Code of Conduct: [http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1378](http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1378) Have an abortion or practice witchcraft and its a $500 fine and 30 reprimands. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/3 "2006-12-07T18:35:42Z")
Hmmm… > [@](#): > > Association with those consuming alcohol – 18 Reprimands + $250 Fine > > Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration – 12 Reprimands + $50 Fine > > Attendance at a dance – 6 Reprimands + $25 Fine > > Dress/hair code violation: male or female – 4 Reprimands + $10 Fine **Liberty** University? _“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”_ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/4 "2006-12-07T18:42:20Z")
\*Entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same - 6 Reprimands + $25 Fine Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex - 30 Reprimands + $500 Fine + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal.\* Apparently the difference is length of time. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/5 "2006-12-07T18:45:06Z")
[QUOTE=pool] I have a friend that goes there and yeah the school is ridiculous. You are not allowed to watch rated R movies or drink alcohol and a bunch of other ridiculou stuff. Check out their Code of Conduct: [http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1378](http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1378) Have an abortion or practice witchcraft and its a $500 fine and 30 reprimands. 😉 [/QUOTE] Doesn’t seem right that they have reprimands, but not commendations. They should divide the school into Houses (Falwell, Robertson, Graham, Bakker, and Phelps), and keep track of which House accumulates the most “points,” if you will, with the highest-ranking House winning some sort of prize at the end of the school year. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/6 "2006-12-07T18:46:22Z")
One of my classmates did her undergraduate at Liberty. She’s really a smart girl, but four years at Liberty didn’t do much for her ability to think for herself. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/7 "2006-12-07T18:57:48Z")
Interesting that the Pagans were from the local Unitarian Universalists; small revenge for the (perhaps apocryphal) time when a group on stealth fundamentalist Christians joined a UU congregation until they had a voting block large enough to sell the church for a trivial amount and close it down. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/8 "2006-12-07T19:17:09Z")
[QUOTE=Apos] [http://blog.au.org/2006/12/falwells\_flub\_j.html](http://blog.au.org/2006/12/falwells_flub_j.html) My favorite is the pastor who declares that the freedom for non-Christians to advertise instead of just Christians is why the public school system should be abandoned altogether. [/QUOTE] In the interests of accuracy and precision, it should be noted that the pastor in the story calls for the public school system to be abandoned by Christian families in favor of homeschooling and private Christian schools. Just so nobody thinks the pastor advocated a policy of the state getting out of the public education business altogether. I realize that, practically speaking, there would be little to distinguish between the two outcomes, but still… ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/9 "2006-12-07T19:29:47Z")
Thanks for that link, **Apos**. There’s some interesting reading there. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/10 "2006-12-07T19:35:25Z")
You really can’t reason with people like this, to them asking why it should be ok for Christians to advertise but not for Pagans is like asking someone why its ok to have sex with an 19 year old but not a 9 year old. To them one is simply wrong and can’t be allowed while the other is perfectly normal, i just love hearing about smack downs like this. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/11 "2006-12-07T20:18:46Z")
[QUOTE=MsRobyn] One of my classmates did her undergraduate at Liberty. She’s really a smart girl, but four years at Liberty didn’t do much for her ability to think for herself. Robin [/QUOTE] Are places like that and Bob Jones even accredited? ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/12 "2006-12-07T20:25:25Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] Are places like that and Bob Jones even accredited? [/QUOTE] I know Bob Jones isn’t. Liberty, OTOH, [is](http://www.liberty.edu/administration/index.cfm?PID=284). Shocked me too. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/13 "2006-12-07T21:22:51Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] \*Entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same - 6 Reprimands + $25 Fine Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex - 30 Reprimands + $500 Fine + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal.\* Apparently the difference is length of time. 😃 [/QUOTE] Note that there are no consequences for spending the night with a person of the _same_ sex! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/14 "2006-12-07T21:40:47Z")
[QUOTE=Dog80] Note that there are no consequences for spending the night with a person of the _same_ sex! :eek: [/QUOTE] I’m thinking they probably got that one covered with the IMORALITY clause. Unless of course prayer ensued and one of the same sex individuals was a reverend, then it’s 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/15 "2006-12-07T21:51:16Z")
[QUOTE=sinjin] I’m thinking they probably got that one covered with the IMORALITY clause. Unless of course prayer ensued and one of the same sex individuals was a reverend, then it’s 🆒 [/QUOTE] Of course its different. One involves being on your knees allnight while the other…oh bother. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/16 "2006-12-07T21:58:08Z")
[QUOTE=Ol’Gaffer] Of course its different. One involves being on your knees allnight while the other…oh bother. [/QUOTE] hehehehehe and Ol’Gaffer raises the bar. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/17 "2006-12-07T22:43:34Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] \* Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex - 30 Reprimands + $500 Fine + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal.\* [/QUOTE] “30 Reprimands”. Heh. I envision somebody, probably the Dean, saying, “Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again. Never do that again.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/18 "2006-12-07T22:50:00Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Hmmm… **Liberty** University? _“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”_ [/QUOTE] Yeah, that’s _exactly_ what I was thinking. Liberty from… what??? ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/19 "2006-12-07T23:28:21Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Yeah, that’s _exactly_ what I was thinking. Liberty from… what??? [/QUOTE] Duh! Liberty from thought! 😛 Robin ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244/20 "2006-12-07T23:30:44Z")
The code of conduct is so bizarre it doesn’t seem real. Seems like a straight-up prison. Come on! No horseplay? Is this a college or a swimming pool? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ha-ha-ha-christianist-dimwits-yes-open-forum-doesnt-mean-christianity-only/383244.md?page=2)