# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/201 "2007-05-26T00:35:07Z")
Okay, how’s everybody doing? I know that it’s been a wild and crazy first day - think I’m speaking for a lot of us when I say I hope things calm down a bit. Heading to bed now, anybody who wants to can continue to trade, and PM their own trades… just remember to make everything by the book and play well together, and things should be great. At the moment, I have 31 PM slots free. We probably won’t have enough overnight activity that those will all be used up, but bear that in mind. And, here’s the big board results **billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 8, 9, 11, 19 And holds these cards: D (4), B, H, M, P, R, W, X **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 13, 19, 20 And holds these cards: F (2), A, B, D, G, O, P, R, T, U **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5 And holds these cards: A (2), B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), C, E, H, M, W, X, Z **Omi no Kami** Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: B (2), T (2), A, E, J, L, N, O, V **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13, 15 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 14 And holds these cards: F (2), L (2), E, G, I, M, N, O, R, Y **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 13 And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13, 16 And holds these cards: Y (2), C, E, G, J, K, O, P, Q, S, T ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/202 "2007-05-26T00:49:51Z")
Man, you guys are insane! Repost Dragoness offer #1: I offer a look at rule #13, 4, or 5, in exchange for a look at rule #14 **Omi No Kami** , this is especially directed at you. Withdraw Dragoness offer #2 Repost Dragoness offer #3: I offer anybody a look at rule 4, 5, or 13 in exchange for a look at any rule I don’t have, still in effect. And finally, Dragoness offer #4: I will give anyone a D, X, or H card in exchange for an A, O, or C (time to start actually trading cards instead of just rules!) In general, I want A and O, and am willing to trade some combination of a rule/card- make me an offer. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/203 "2007-05-26T01:06:33Z")
Here I was, counting on a nice slow Friday so I could jump into this game (and keep up with Mafia3), and instead we end up with a damned crisis at work. Now I feel like I’m way behind. I haven’t had time to really catch up, but I might as well propose a trade: nesta trade #1: I will show rule 11 to someone who will show me one rule 2-9, as long as I haven’t seen that particular rule yet. Come on, any takers? If anyone offered me any trades that are still valid feel free to point them out again now that I can follow the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/204 "2007-05-26T01:13:26Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] nesta trade #1: I will show rule 11 to someone who will show me one rule 2-9, as long as I haven’t seen that particular rule yet. Come on, any takers? If anyone offered me any trades that are still valid feel free to point them out again now that I can follow the thread. [/QUOTE] Sorry **nesta** , I’ve seen 11. But my three offers are in the post right before yours, 202. It’s all in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8614051&postcount=202). Just say what exactly you want to trade in green. (pretty please?) ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/205 "2007-05-26T01:29:04Z")
Accept **Dragoness** offer #3: I will show rule 1 in exchange for being shown rule 4 Dragoness, do you want to do this now or wait for **chrisk** to be back online? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/206 "2007-05-26T01:29:51Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] USCDiver offer #8: for **NAF1138** You get a look at Rule 19 in exchange for an A card [/QUOTE] I accept this offer: Rule 19 for one A card ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/207 "2007-05-26T03:13:23Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] **Uncommon Sense** is making an offer to **Nesta** ; Offer #US2 – I would like to look at Rule #1 in exchange for allowing **Nesta** to look at Rule #14. [/QUOTE] I accept #US2. I will show **Uncommon Sense** rule #1 to see rule #14. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/208 "2007-05-26T03:22:00Z")
Offer nesta #2: I will show someone rule 1, 10, 11, or 17 in exchange for either an A or an I. ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/209 "2007-05-26T03:42:49Z")
[QUOTE=Dragoness] Dragoness offer #4: I will give anyone a D, X, or H card in exchange for an A, O, or C [/QUOTE] Withdraw that one. Instead, Dragoness offer 5: I will give a D or H card and a peek at rule 4, 5, or 13 in return for a look at rule 14 and a letter card of your choice. And, Dragoness offer 6: I give a D or H card and a peek at rule 4, 5, or 13 for a peek at any rule I haven’t seen and an O or C But I’m rather flexible… not just O or C, make me an offer. Sorry if these sound complicated, but I want to throw a lot of options out for people- surely there’s something in there that interests you! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/210 "2007-05-26T08:12:47Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Hal Offer #6, for **priceguy** (whenever you come back online): I will trade you a peek at Rule #5 and an F Card in exchange for a peek at Rule #7 and an L Card. [/QUOTE] Accepted. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/211 "2007-05-26T08:30:45Z")
Oooh, **Priceguy** is back. USCDiver offer #11: for Priceguy, in exchange for your I Card and a look at Rule #7, I offer a J Card and a look at Rule #19 ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/212 "2007-05-26T08:38:22Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] USCDiver offer #11: for Priceguy, in exchange for your I Card and a look at Rule #7, I offer a J Card and a look at Rule #19 [/QUOTE] Counteroffer: Priceguy offer #4: I offer **USCDiver** his choice of an F card or an L card plus a look at rule 7 for an M card and a look at rule 19. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/213 "2007-05-26T09:29:41Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Which player was it, so I don’t keep making offers to a non existent player? Is anyone watching this thread that isn’t actively involved? [/QUOTE] I wanted to check that it was okay to release the name: **Omi no Kami** If we can’t find a substitute, **Omi** ’s portfolio will probably remain moribund for most of the game, until sometime during the last week it’ll get probated by the state. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/214 "2007-05-26T09:36:15Z")
Okay, looks like we had a fairly quiet night. Four trades, two self-handled with PMs quite well, two of them that I assume were NOT self-handled because I got no copies. 😃 And still something like 19 days to go! :eek: 😃 **billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 8, 9, 11, 19 And holds these cards: D (4), B, H, M, P, R, W, X **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, F, G, L, O, P, R, T, U **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 19 And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17 Has seen rules: 4, 14 And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), C, E, H, M, W, X, Z **Omi no Kami** Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: B (2), T (2), A, E, J, L, N, O, V **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13, 15 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 5, 14 And holds these cards: F (3), E, G, I, L, M, N, O, R, Y **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 13 And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13, 16 And holds these cards: Y (2), A, C, E, G, J, K, O, P, Q, S, T ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/215 "2007-05-26T13:06:58Z")
Ok one more offer before I go to bed (working the night shift this weekend) USCDiver offer #12: for **percypercy** , I will show you the invaluable Rule #8 and Card K in exchange for a look at Rule 14 and Card U ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/216 "2007-05-26T13:10:50Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Counteroffer: Priceguy offer #4: I offer **USCDiver** his choice of an F card or an L card plus a look at rule 7 for an M card and a look at rule 19. [/QUOTE] I don’t have an M card to give you, mon frere… counter offer USCDiver offer #14: You get a look at rule #8 in exchange for your I card ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/217 "2007-05-26T13:23:51Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Is anyone watching this thread that isn’t actively involved? [/QUOTE] I’ve been taking a casual look. It seemed kind of interesting to see if I could determine the relative worth of the letters based on trade offers and such. But I’ve determined enough to see that it’s not really that simple. I would say that this game seems difficult to play in an online environment. Players not present at the start of trading are at a distinct disadvantage. Furthermore, a player in an unpopular time zone or with restricted internet access hours pretty much can’t play. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/218 "2007-05-26T13:26:48Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] I’ve been taking a casual look. It seemed kind of interesting to see if I could determine the relative worth of the letters based on trade offers and such. But I’ve determined enough to see that it’s not really that simple. I would say that this game seems difficult to play in an online environment. Players not present at the start of trading are at a distinct disadvantage. Furthermore, a player in an unpopular time zone or with restricted internet access hours pretty much can’t play. [/QUOTE] So does that mean you’re not interested in subbing in for **Kami**? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/219 "2007-05-26T14:00:42Z")
Arright…I’m outta here until Monday. I’ll be on sporadically later today, posting from my in-laws, but most of the weekend will be pretty much a wash for me. Still, feel free to make me an offer and I’ll do my best to pop in and see if it’s worthwhile. Happy trading, all! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/220 "2007-05-26T15:47:53Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] So does that mean you’re not interested in subbing in for **Kami**? 😉 [/QUOTE] Well, I could. But I wouldn’t expect much from me. 1) Most information has been traded already. 2) It’s a holiday weekend. I suppose a half dead fish is better than a fully dead fish. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=12)