# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/281 "2007-05-27T18:54:51Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
Counter-counter offer nesta #4: I will show you rule #10 and give you a C card for a look at rule #13 and a D card.  
[/QUOTE]  
Accepted.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/282 "2007-05-27T19:17:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
Accepted.  
[/QUOTE]

**billyb0b**  
Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16  
And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19  
And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 19  
And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, R, W, X, Y

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: A, B, D, F, G, L, O, P, R, T, U

**MadTheSwine**  
Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19  
Has seen rules:  
And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V

**NAF1138**  
Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 19  
And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17  
Has seen rules: 4, 7, 13, 14  
And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), D, E, H, M, W, X, Z

**percypercy**  
Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 13, 15  
And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), C, E, G, L, M, N, O, P, R, Y

**sachertorte**  
Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20  
Has seen rules: 5, 8, 11, 13  
And holds these cards: T (2), A, B, D, E, J, L, N, O, V

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 13  
And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 13, 16  
And holds these cards: A, C, E, G, I, J, K, O, P, Q, S, T, Y

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/283 "2007-05-27T19:21:20Z")

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Priceguy offer #9: I offer **percypercy** two F cards and a look at rule 7 for an I card and a U card.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/284 "2007-05-27T20:12:48Z")

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Quite a few people (obviously) have cards I’m interested in, but I’m not sure what they may want. I have two Bs, a D, and a look at rule 5 to trade. I may possibly have an X or a look at rule 18 for you, but that would need to be a sweet deal.

**Doctor Who,** what would you like for your N, O, or S? What about you, **sachertorte,** for your N, O, or V? Anyone else with any of those cards?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/285 "2007-05-27T20:22:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
Quite a few people (obviously) have cards I’m interested in, but I’m not sure what they may want. I have two Bs, a D, and a look at rule 5 to trade. I may possibly have an X or a look at rule 18 for you, but that would need to be a sweet deal.

**Doctor Who,** what would you like for your N, O, or S? What about you, **sachertorte,** for your N, O, or V? Anyone else with any of those cards?  
[/QUOTE]

I’m interested in a D. Make me an offer.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/286 "2007-05-27T21:15:19Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
I’m interested in a D. Make me an offer.  
[/QUOTE]

Sure! Dragoness offer#9: A D and a look at rule #18 for an O and an S

or just Dragoness offer #10: D card for an S

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/287 "2007-05-27T22:06:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
Sure! Dragoness offer#9: A D and a look at rule #18 for an O and an S

or just Dragoness offer #10: D card for an S  
[/QUOTE]

There’s twice as many D cards as S cards in play. Care to sweeten Offer #10 with something else?

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/288 "2007-05-28T00:04:23Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
There’s twice as many D cards as S cards in play. Care to sweeten Offer #10 with something else?  
[/QUOTE]

I could do either #11: D for an O (by my count, the O is more common than the S)

or #12: D and a look at rule 18 for an S.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/289 "2007-05-28T00:29:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
I could do either #11: D for an O (by my count, the O is more common than the S)

or #12: D and a look at rule 18 for an S.  
[/QUOTE]

Dragoness Offer #12 accepted. I get a D Card and a look at Rule 18 in exchange for an S card

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/290 "2007-05-28T00:37:18Z")

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Alright, gnight, and see you tomorrow, but not too much. 😉

**billyb0b**  
Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16  
And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19  
And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 19  
And holds these cards: B (2), D, F, H, M, R, S, W, X, Y

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: A, B, D, F, G, L, O, P, R, T, U

**MadTheSwine**  
Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19  
Has seen rules:  
And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V

**NAF1138**  
Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 19  
And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17  
Has seen rules: 4, 7, 13, 14  
And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), D, E, H, M, W, X, Z

**percypercy**  
Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 13, 15  
And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), C, E, G, L, M, N, O, P, R, Y

**sachertorte**  
Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20  
Has seen rules: 5, 8, 11, 13  
And holds these cards: T (2), A, B, D, E, J, L, N, O, V

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 13  
And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, P, Q, T, Y

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/291 "2007-05-28T04:41:12Z")

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[QUOTE=me]  
Offer nesta #3: I will show **billyb0b** , **Dragoness** , or **Priceguy** rule #10 in exchange for seeing rule #13.  
[/QUOTE]  
FTR: nesta offer #3 is void, since I have now seen rule #13.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/292 "2007-05-28T05:03:28Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
Dragoness Offer #12 accepted. I get a D Card and a look at Rule 18 in exchange for an S card  
[/QUOTE]

Thanks **USCDiver** , I see the PM has already been sent.

Hey, **MadTheSwine,** I know you were gone for this weekend, but there are some things I’d love to talk to you about. If you are still planning on playing, you’ll be a bit behind, so let me throw out a big offer to get you started.

Dragoness offer #13:From me, a look at rules 4, 5, and 13, and either a B or an R. From MadTheSwine, a look at rules 9 and 12, and a V card.

Of course, feel free to make smaller offers for any part of that- I just thought I’d throw out the whole shebang.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/293 "2007-05-28T11:21:50Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
FTR: nesta offer #3 is void, since I have now seen rule #13.  
[/QUOTE]

This should be considered to be a general rule - you can’t take someone up on a previous offer by showing them something that they’ve seen in the meantime.

I’m at work now, (no memorial day in canada ☹ ) and will be doing my utmost to check the board only a few times during the day. Happy long weekend to all you 'mericans and good luck with any trades you have time to do!

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/294 "2007-05-28T12:57:51Z")

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USCDiver Offer #18: for percypercy; I will give you a P card and a look at Rule 8 in exchange for a U card and a look at Rule 14

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/295 "2007-05-28T18:32:33Z")

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Hal Offer #7, for **Uncommon Sense** : Will trade a B Card and a look at Rule #5 in exchange for an L Card and a look at Rule #10.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/296 "2007-05-28T18:45:41Z")

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And since (I think) you’re the only one online at the moment – Hal Offer #8, for **Priceguy** : Will trade a P Card and a look at Rules #11 (which you _do_ want to see, BTW) AND #15 in exchange for an E Card and a look at Rule #16.

Ordinarily, I certainly wouldn’t offer two rules for one, but the card I’m asking for is slightly more valuable then the one I’m offering. However, in this case the extra rule more than makes up for it.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/297 "2007-05-28T18:51:27Z")

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I’m sure it’s a good offer, **Hal** , but as far as I know I don’t need more than one P.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/298 "2007-05-28T19:02:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I’m sure it’s a good offer, **Hal** , but **as far as I know** I don’t need more than one P.  
[/QUOTE]  
That’s more or less my point. 🙂 You’re hording cards at the cost of knowledge.

Well, let’s try this – you may not yet know what (if anything) you get for having triples or more of a particular card, but you can set yourself up for that if you choose:  
Revised Hal Offer #8, for **Priceguy** : Will trade either a P Card or an F Card and a look at Rules #11 AND #15 in exchange for an E Card and a look at Rule #16.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/299 "2007-05-28T19:18:14Z")

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I’d rather have a second P card than a third F card, the way things stand now. And I do need to see more rules. I don’t suppose I could interest you in anything other than an E?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/300 "2007-05-28T19:44:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I’d rather have a second P card than a third F card, the way things stand now. And I do need to see more rules. I don’t suppose I could interest you in anything other than an E?  
[/QUOTE]  
Mmmm…lesse…I could use an L, which is my I made that offer to **Uncommon Sense**. I’d have to pull back on my rules offer for that one, though.

Let’s do it this way…make your pick, 8A or 8B:  
Revised Hal Offer for **Priceguy** :  
Offer 8A: Will trade a P Card and a look at Rules #11 AND #15 in exchange for an E Card and a look at Rule #16.  
Offer 8B: Will trade a P Card and a look at Rule #11 in exchange for an L Card and a look at Rule #16.

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