# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/301 "2007-05-28T19:45:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Mmmm…lesse…I could use an L, which is my I made that offer to **Uncommon Sense**. I’d have to pull back on my rules offer for that one, though.

Let’s do it this way…make your pick, 8A or 8B:  
Revised Hal Offer for **Priceguy** :  
Offer 8A: Will trade a P Card and a look at Rules #11 AND #15 in exchange for an E Card and a look at Rule #16.  
Offer 8B: Will trade a P Card and a look at Rule #11 in exchange for an L Card and a look at Rule #16.  
[/QUOTE]  
8B is accepted.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/302 "2007-05-28T20:43:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
8B is accepted.  
[/QUOTE]

**billyb0b**  
Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16  
And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19  
And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 19  
And holds these cards: B (2), D, F, H, M, R, S, W, X, Y

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 16, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: L (2), A, B, D, F, G, O, R, T, U

**MadTheSwine**  
Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19  
Has seen rules:  
And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V

**NAF1138**  
Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 19  
And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17  
Has seen rules: 4, 7, 13, 14  
And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), D, E, H, M, W, X, Z

**percypercy**  
Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 13, 15  
And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y

**sachertorte**  
Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20  
Has seen rules: 5, 8, 11, 13  
And holds these cards: T (2), A, B, D, E, J, L, N, O, V

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 13  
And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, P, Q, T, Y

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/303 "2007-05-29T11:29:24Z")

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BUMP so we don’t fall off the first page.

Welcome back from the Holiday those of you who were out of town. There was a flurry of deals initially which seems to have tapered off some in the last 24hrs.

Let’s get back to it!

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/304 "2007-05-29T12:15:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Hal Offer #7, for **Uncommon Sense** : Will trade a B Card and a look at Rule #5 in exchange for an L Card and a look at Rule #10.  
[/QUOTE]  
Since 8B was accpepted, I’m going to have to rescind Hal Offer #7.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/305 "2007-05-29T13:40:06Z")

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Sorry for the lapse fellas, busy weekend.  
US offer #3; I would like to see Rule 20. **Sachertorte** , you may see rule slip 2, 10, or 17 (pick one) in exchange.

Us offer #4; I would like to see Rule 3. **percypercy** , you may see rule slip 2, 10, or 17 (pick one) in exchange.

US offer #5; **Doctor Who** , I’m in need of an O. You may chose a rule (possibly rule 10?) to view in exchange for that letter.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/306 "2007-05-29T14:36:44Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 16, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: L (2), A, B, D, F, **G, O, R, T** , U  
[/QUOTE]  
(Bolding mine)  
Heh…if this were a sci-fi movie board, I might pick up some points there.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/307 "2007-05-29T15:12:29Z")

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**Hal** , are you interested in making a deal for your U Card? We don’t have any rules to offer each other. How about…

For **Hal Briston** , You get my T card in exchange for your U card.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/308 "2007-05-29T15:14:37Z")

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**percypercy** , since the thread is moving and you might miss it, my offer to you still stands:

Priceguy offer #9: I offer percypercy two F cards and a look at rule 7 for an I card and a U card.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/309 "2007-05-29T15:26:18Z")

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Oh, now we’re going to battle for stuff… a new level of complexity to the game:

Yoohoo! **percypercy** I also have an offer on the table for you. And it’s way better than dumb old **Priceguy’s** as you already know from your rules knowledge.

USCDiver Offer #18: for percypercy; I will give you a P card and a look at Rule 8 in exchange for a U card and a look at Rule 14

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/310 "2007-05-29T15:30:46Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
**Hal** , are you interested in making a deal for your U Card? We don’t have any rules to offer each other. How about…

For **Hal Briston** , You get my T card in exchange for your U card.  
[/QUOTE]  
Sorry… I already have U in my “do not trade” file, so it’ll take a _lot_ more than a consonent that I already hold to get me to part with the rarest vowel in the game.

I can see what you’re going for so I know what you _don’t_ want to give up. So, let me make a pair of proposals. They’re admittedly steep, but that U Card is a valuable commodity:

Hal Offer #9A, for **USCDiver** : My U Card in exchange for your C, J, K and Y Cards.  
Hal Offer #9B, for **USCDiver** : My U Card in exchange for any two of the C, J, K or Y Cards (your choice) and either Rule Slip #2 or #8 (your choice – and to clarify, that would be for the slip itself, NOT a look at the slip).

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/311 "2007-05-29T15:33:49Z")

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**Uncommon Sense** , I notice you’re trying to get some rules. I have several that you haven’t seen yet. How’s about:

USCDiver offer #20: for **Uncommon Sense** You get a look at Rules #8 and Rule #19 in exchange for your Z card

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/312 "2007-05-29T15:40:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]

Hal Offer #9A, for **USCDiver** : My U Card in exchange for your C, J, K and Y Cards.  
Hal Offer #9B, for **USCDiver** : My U Card in exchange for any two of the C, J, K or Y Cards (your choice) and either Rule Slip #2 or #8 (your choice – and to clarify, that would be for the slip itself, NOT a look at the slip).  
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Ouch those are steep! Ok, I got another couple of deals pending with looks at Rule 8 involved, so let me see if I get a bite on those before I trade it away…

I’m also not sure how the trade of a Rule card (as opposed to a look) will affect the game in the long run…

I need to contemplate a bit.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/313 "2007-05-29T16:04:10Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
I need to contemplate a bit.  
[/QUOTE]  
Understood…lemme know.

Now then, I see that **percypercy** is online. Care to make a deal?  
Hal Offer #10 for **percypercy** : I’ll give you a B Card and a look at Rule #5 in exchange for an H Card and a look at Rule #14.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/314 "2007-05-29T17:09:48Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
Yoohoo! **percypercy** I also have an offer on the table for you. And it’s way better than dumb old **Priceguy’s** as you already know from your rules knowledge.

USCDiver Offer #18: for percypercy; I will give you a P card and a look at Rule 8 in exchange for a U card and a look at Rule 14  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m open for counteroffers, **percypercy**. If you want a P card, I’ve got one.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/315 "2007-05-29T19:52:16Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
**Uncommon Sense** , I notice you’re trying to get some rules. I have several that you haven’t seen yet. How’s about:

USCDiver offer #20: for **Uncommon Sense** You get a look at Rules #8 and Rule #19 in exchange for your Z card  
[/QUOTE]

Highly unlikely,  
(US Offer/Counter #6) unless you can get your hands on the Rule 20 slip, then I might trade looks at Rules 8, 15, 19, and 20 for the Z card.  
It’s the only thing I’ve got man!

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/316 "2007-05-29T19:58:50Z")

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US offer #7; **NAF1138** , A look at Rule 20 in exchange for a look at a Rule of mine (your choice, one).

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/317 "2007-05-29T20:00:04Z")

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So it’s rules you’re looking for, **Uncommon Sense**? Well, how’s this sound –

Hal Offer #10 for **Uncommon Sense** : I’ll give up a peek at Rule Slips #5, #11 and #15 in exchange for a look at Rule Slip #14 and an N Card.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/318 "2007-05-29T20:10:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
So it’s rules you’re looking for, **Uncommon Sense**? Well, how’s this sound –

Hal Offer #10 for **Uncommon Sense** : I’ll give up a peek at Rule Slips #5, #11 and #15 in exchange for a look at Rule Slip #14 and an N Card.  
[/QUOTE]

un_fortun_ately, I can’t do that at this point.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/319 "2007-05-29T20:14:49Z")

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US offer #8; **Billyb0b** , For one of your A’s, a look at two of the Rules you have not seen yet, namely 10 and 14.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/320 "2007-05-29T21:02:03Z")

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Okay, I’m curious about something.

We’re maybe five and a half days in, many of those being the memorial day weekend.

Do a majority of players still want to stick to my original schedule? Or is there any sort of unspoken feelings that setting an earlier deadline might make the game more fun? I just sort of figured that this was a good time to be asking.

To refresh your memory, from the kickoff:

> [@Your Humble Hagglemaster](#):
>
> Starting bell
> 
> * * *
> 
> All players should have a PM with the text of their rules now. (If by some freak chance anybody doesn’t, PM me or say so here.)
> 
> Trade offers may now begin. Trade deadline is Thursday, June 14th, at 9 pm eastern, that’s not quite 3 weeks away, with a final submission deadline one day later, Friday the 15th at 9 pm.
> 
> Then, I can score and hopefully announce a winner that Saturday.
> 
> Good luck, all Hagglers!

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