# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/361 "2007-05-30T16:19:47Z")
US offer to buy; **Sachertorte** , I’ll buy rules 4 and 7 and letters L and T and D. 19 points? ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/362 "2007-05-30T16:27:04Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] US offer to buy; **Sachertorte** , I’ll buy rules 4 and 7 and letters L and T and D. 19 points? [/QUOTE] Rule Sales (4 and 7) are accepted : 4 points **Uncommon Sense** , I am limiting players to buying one consonant and one vowel. As I am out of stock for vowels, I will allow you to buy two consonants (10 points). Please pick the two that you would like. Sales of L T and D are suspended until Uncommon Sense makes his (Her?) choice since sachertorte industries only has one register. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/363 "2007-05-30T16:32:55Z")
Offer nesta #6: I will show **Uncommon Sense** rule #11 in exchange for seeing rule #2 and a C card. Rule #11 is a good one. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/364 "2007-05-30T16:37:15Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] Rule Sales (4 and 7) are accepted : 4 points **Uncommon Sense** , I am limiting players to buying one consonant and one vowel. As I am out of stock for vowels, I will allow you to buy two consonants (10 points). Please pick the two that you would like. Sales of L T and D are suspended until Uncommon Sense makes his (Her?) choice since sachertorte industries only has one register. [/QUOTE] I’m approving this much, assuming that **Uncommon Sense** doesn’t want to be too sticky about purchasing that whole bit at once. PM has been sent. **billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 19 And holds these cards: B (2), D, F, H, M, O, R, S, T, W, X, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: L (2), A, B, D, E, F, G, N, O, R, T, U owes **sachertorte** 11 points. **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 8, 9, 15 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 5, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 7, 13, 14, 15 And holds these cards: A (3), I (2), B, D, E, H, M, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 11 points. **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13, 15 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y **sachertorte** Holds rules: NONE. Has seen rules: 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 20 And holds these cards: D, J, L, T, V is owed 11 points by **nesta**. is owed 11 points by **Hal Briston**. is owed 9 points by **Dragoness**. is owed 4 points by **Uncommon Sense**. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 13, 20 And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z owes **sachertorte** 4 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18 And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, P, Q, T, Y ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/365 "2007-05-30T16:45:09Z")
Offer nesta #7: **percypercy** : I will show you any 3 of the rules I hold in exchange for seeing rules 3, 6, and 18. Offer becomes void if I have already seen any of those rules. Offer nesta #8: **Doctor Who** : I will show you rules 10 and 20 in exchange for seeing rules 12 and 16. Void if rules are already seen, just like offer #7. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/366 "2007-05-30T16:52:23Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] [Priceguy offer #11: I offer Uncommon Sense his choice of an F card, a P card or an N card for an I card. That’s my only vowel so I’m going to have to decline at this point, you may leave the offer on the table however. I just wanted to let you know I saw it. [/QUOTE] Howsabout an O card for your I? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/367 "2007-05-30T16:54:37Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] Offer nesta #8: **Doctor Who** : I will show you rules 10 and 20 in exchange for seeing rules 12 and 16. Void if rules are already seen, just like offer #7. [/QUOTE] I accept nesta offer #8. ETA: PM sent. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/368 "2007-05-30T18:01:26Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] Rule Sales (4 and 7) are accepted : 4 points **Uncommon Sense** , I am limiting players to buying one consonant and one vowel. As I am out of stock for vowels, I will allow you to buy two consonants (10 points). Please pick the two that you would like. Sales of L T and D are suspended until Uncommon Sense makes his (Her?) choice since sachertorte industries only has one register. [/QUOTE] L and T please. Thanks, it’s been a pleasure doing business with you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/369 "2007-05-30T18:02:35Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Howsabout an O card for your I? [/QUOTE] No good, need the I. Thanks for trying to work something out though. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/370 "2007-05-30T18:12:51Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] Offer nesta #6: I will show **Uncommon Sense** rule #11 in exchange for seeing rule #2 and a C card. Rule #11 is a good one. [/QUOTE] Says you! US Counter offer **Nesta** #6; Throw in one of your several A’s and we’ll call it a deal. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/371 "2007-05-30T18:33:00Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] US Counter offer **Nesta** #6; Throw in one of your several A’s and we’ll call it a deal. [/QUOTE] Those A’s have a purpose, so I’m not ready to part with them just yet. How 'bout: counter-counter-offer nesta #6-c1: I will show you rule 11 and give you an H in exchange for seeing rule #2 and an L. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/372 "2007-05-30T18:36:42Z")
**billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 19 And holds these cards: B (2), D, F, H, M, O, R, S, T, W, X, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: L (2), A, B, D, E, F, G, N, O, R, T, U owes **sachertorte** 11 points. **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 8, 9, 15 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 5, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), I (2), B, D, E, H, M, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 11 points. **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13, 15 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y **sachertorte** Holds rules: NONE. Has seen rules: 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 20 And holds these cards: D, J, V is owed 11 points by **nesta**. is owed 11 points by **Hal Briston**. is owed 9 points by **Dragoness**. is owed 14 points by **Uncommon Sense**. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 13, 20 And holds these cards: L (2), M (2), C, F, G, I, J, N, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18 And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, P, Q, T, Y ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/373 "2007-05-30T22:13:50Z")
A somewhat strange peculiarity has come to light. Back in post 168, **Hal Briston** and **percypercy** traded two letters and rule views. In a cosmic fluke, **Hal** looked at rule slip #6 upside down, and instead of reading the inverted letters correctly, he was visited by a presentiment of rule #9. This has been confirmed and will be reflected in the updates from here on. If **Hal** wants to finally know rule 6, he’ll have to trade for it again. Thank you for your time. Security precautions will be employed to prevent such psychic phenomena from manifesting in the game again, as far as this is possible. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/374 "2007-05-30T22:26:07Z")
USCDiver Offer #21 for NAF1138, I will trade you my K and P cards for your U and R cards ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/375 "2007-05-30T22:28:46Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] USCDiver Offer #21 for NAF1138, I will trade you my K and P cards for your U and R cards [/QUOTE] Sounds lovely, but I can’t. I have no need for a k and I need my U and my R. But let me know if there is anything else you would like to work out. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/376 "2007-05-30T22:34:13Z")
Ok, thanks NAF USCDiver Offer #22: For nesta, in exchange for your Z and H cards, I will let you see Rules 2 and 19 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/377 "2007-05-30T22:34:45Z")
Since I just realized there are proposals of mine floating out there in which players could effectively get rules from me without showing me anything I don’t already know, I think this would be a good time to withdraw all active Hal Offers until I can get things reorganized. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/378 "2007-05-30T22:40:29Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Since I just realized there are proposals of mine floating out there in which players could effectively get rules from me without showing me anything I don’t already know, I think this would be a good time to withdraw all active Hal Offers until I can get things reorganized. [/QUOTE] I’d have warning flags on trades like that **Hal** , but being organized is always good. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/379 "2007-05-30T22:52:05Z")
To those of you who have played this game before. How does it differ when playing in person? Are trades made outloud to the group or in a one on one conversation? Is there a public record of what each person has available or is that only available on request? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/380 "2007-05-30T22:52:19Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] A somewhat strange peculiarity has come to light. Back in post 168, **Hal Briston** and **percypercy** traded two letters and rule views. In a cosmic fluke, **Hal** looked at rule slip #6 upside down, and instead of reading the inverted letters correctly, he was visited by a presentiment of rule #9. This has been confirmed and will be reflected in the updates from here on. If **Hal** wants to finally know rule 6, he’ll have to trade for it again. [/QUOTE] :eek: So Hal doesn’t know Rule 6?! HE DOESN’T KNOW RULE 6? Well, I might be inclined to show it to you, Hal. Make me an offer I can’t refuse! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=20)