# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/461 "2007-06-03T15:01:25Z")

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Okay, I am now working on the division of **percypercy** ’s assets. Ruling of the probate board will be final, and hopefully the decision will be handed down in 15 minutes or so.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/462 "2007-06-03T15:03:38Z")

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The process is random I trust?

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/463 "2007-06-03T15:14:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
The process is random I trust?  
[/QUOTE]

There will be random elements, but I won’t simply be rolling a die to determine where each item goes. Very generally, I’ll be attempting to equalize the value of what each active player returns (where this is possible) and to avoid giving anybody an asset that will be particularly valuable in their situation.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/464 "2007-06-03T15:32:38Z")

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Probate results:

**percypercy** ’s portfolio has been divided up.  
**Dragoness** gets:  
a D and a U

**Doctor Who** gets:  
an E and rule 6

**Hal Briston** gets:  
a G and a K

**MadTheSwine** gets:  
an F and rule 18

**nesta** gets:  
rule 14

**Priceguy** gets:  
a D and rule 3

**Uncommon Sense** gets:  
an H and an I

**USCDiver** gets:  
an O and a Q  
I’ll handle any rule PMs and post a full update ASAP.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/465 "2007-06-03T15:46:02Z")

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**billyb0b**  
Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12, 16  
And holds these cards: A (3), B, D, P, Q, R, U

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 10, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: A (2), D (2), E (2), N (2), O (2), B, C, F, G, J, K, L, M, P, R, S, T, U, W  
Must give 49% to **NAF1138**

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, R, S, U, W, X, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 9 points.

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 14, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: G (2), L (2), T (2), A, B, D, E, J, K, O, R, U  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.

**MadTheSwine**  
Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 18, 19  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 20  
And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), F (2), H (2), C, K, V

**NAF1138**  
Holds rules: NONE.  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 15, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: NONE.  
Gets 49% from **Doctor Who**

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19  
And holds these cards: A (3), D (2), I (2), B, E, H, M, W, X, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.

**percypercy**  
Holds rules: NONE.  
Has seen rules: 3, 6, 13, 14, 15, 18  
And holds these cards: NONE.

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y

**sachertorte**  
Holds rules: NONE.  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 20  
And holds these cards: NONE.  
is owed 16 points by **nesta**.  
is owed 16 points by **Hal Briston**.  
is owed 9 points by **Dragoness**.  
is owed 14 points by **Uncommon Sense**.  
is owed 41 points by **USCDiver**.

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 17  
Has seen rules: 1, 13, 20  
And holds these cards: I (2), L (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, N, T, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 14 points.

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 15, 19, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: O (2), Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, P, R, V, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 41 points.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/466 "2007-06-03T16:04:49Z")

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Oh, I know the game’s still going on. I was just waiting in vain for **MadTheSwine** to answer, as I thought those were rather good offers. Repost:

[QUOTE=dragoness]  
MadTheSwine, I notice you’ve seen rule 10 now. Might you be interested in a B?  
Offer 17A: my B for MadTheSwine’s C  
or do you still need more rules before you decide?  
Offer 17B: a look at rules 13 and 18 for the C  
[/QUOTE]

I’ll extend those to **Uncommon Sense** as well.

In other news, does anyone want a B, a D, an X, or a U?

Dragoness offer 18A: Doctor Who, how about a look at rule 5 for a look at rule 3, 15, or 16 (your choice)?  
Dragoness offer 18B: Uncommon Sense, how about a look at rule 5 for a look at rule 2 or 17 (your choice)?

If anyone wants to see rule 18, make me an offer.

And last, **USCDiver** , since you sniped that V out from under us all so smoothly, is there anything you would take for it? How about for your P?

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/467 "2007-06-03T16:12:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
If anyone wants to see rule 18, make me an offer.  
[/quote]

D1138 inc Offer #11: I’d like to see rule 18. How about a look at rule 5 for a look at rule 18?

Also, at this point, I retract all outstanding offers (other than offer #11 to Dragoness).

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/468 "2007-06-03T16:46:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
D1138 inc Offer #11: I’d like to see rule 18. How about a look at rule 5 for a look at rule 18?

[/QUOTE]

That would make more sense if I didn’t hold rule 5 😃

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/469 "2007-06-03T16:53:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
That would make more sense if I didn’t hold rule 5 😃  
[/QUOTE]

It would also help if **Doctor Who** had rule #5.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/470 "2007-06-03T18:09:39Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
It would also help if **Doctor Who** had rule #5.  
[/QUOTE]

So basically it’s just kind of 😕 all the way around.

(Sorry **Doctor Who** , didn’t mean to tease you. At least not too much. Try again?)

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/471 "2007-06-03T18:33:12Z")

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I’m interested in **nesta** ’s I and the Corporation’s U. Anything of interest?

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/472 "2007-06-03T18:58:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I’m interested in **nesta** ’s I and the Corporation’s U. Anything of interest?  
[/QUOTE]

Dragoness offer 19A: My U for Priceguy’s P  
or  
19B: My U for Priceguy’s C and a look at rule 2

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/473 "2007-06-03T23:07:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
That would make more sense if I didn’t hold rule 5 😃  
[/QUOTE]  
:smack:

> [@chrisk](#):
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> It would also help if Doctor Who had rule #5.

:smack:

Looks like I win the award for the dumbest offer. Here’s what I intended:

D1138 inc Offer #11 (redux): Dragoness, I’d like to see rule 18. How about a look at rule 3 for a look at rule 18?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/474 "2007-06-04T04:25:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
Dragoness offer 19A: My U for Priceguy’s P  
[/QUOTE]

USCDiver 27, I’ll give you my P for a U

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/475 "2007-06-04T04:26:56Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
USCDiver 27, I’ll give you my P for a U  
[/QUOTE]

Sure thing!

[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
D1138 inc Offer #11 (redux): Dragoness, I’d like to see rule 18. How about a look at rule 3 for a look at rule 18?  
[/QUOTE]

Sounds great.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/476 "2007-06-04T05:39:13Z")

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> [@Dragoness](#):
>
> Sounds great.

PMing you now.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/477 "2007-06-04T05:57:01Z")

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Dragoness, USCDiver 28, straight up trade,one of my Q for your H, with the caveat that I will not trade it to Hal

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/478 "2007-06-04T06:02:35Z")

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D1138 Offer 12: Hal - I will give you my K in exchange for one of your T’s.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/479 "2007-06-04T06:07:03Z")

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Also -

D1138 Offer 13: Dragoness — I will give you a J - plus a look at rules 15 AND 16 for your H.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/480 "2007-06-04T06:20:34Z")

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D1138 Offer 14 - MadTheSwine, I’m in the mood to wrap up most of my trading here, so: I will give you a look at ALL the rules I currently hold, in exchange for one of your S’s. Just one S for tons of rules.

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