# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/541 "2007-06-07T15:13:01Z")
I’ll go 10 for one of those S’s. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/542 "2007-06-07T15:45:46Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] Oh boy. I think I noticed the list of rules, but didn’t actually clue in that that wasn’t every rule that was up for auction. :smack: Well, since you already had the info on those rule slips, I think it can be fixed. I’ll take 16 points off your IOU, rule slips 1 and 13 will be burned, and rule slip 17 now passes to **USCDiver** , the true high bidder, for a price of 5 points. He finally won something! 😃 I’ll wait a little while for any objections to this plan before locking it in and PMing the rule content. **Dragoness** , thanks for the tip, I’ve logged in both of those trades from post 475, including the rule showing one with **Doctor Who** Good think I had the morning off of work today! 😃 [/QUOTE] Probably didn’t wait long enough to give **USCDiver** a fair chance to show up, but I wanted to get this sorted out before I leave to visit relatives. The diver has been PMed rule 17. **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: E (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), N (2), O (2), B, G, H, J, K, L, M, P, R, S, T, U, W owes **The Bank** 82 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20 And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), T (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, O, P, R, U owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 57 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), D (3), B (2), E (2), I (2), H, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 5, 13, 17, 20 And holds these cards: I (2), L (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, N, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 10 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18 And holds these cards: O (2), Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, R, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/543 "2007-06-07T16:51:03Z")
Ok, now I’m confused. What are the current bids for S cards? and how many are there? ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/544 "2007-06-07T16:59:43Z")
Bid 17 for an S. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/545 "2007-06-07T17:24:40Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Ok, now I’m confused. What are the current bids for S cards? and how many are there? [/QUOTE] There are three S cards. It looks like the bids are (unofficially, of course – I defer to **chrisk** in all matters): **nesta** with 17 **Uncommon Sense** with 16 **Doctor Who** with 10 Therefor, I will bid 11. Making the standings now: **nesta** with 17 **Uncommon Sense** with 16 **Hal Briston** with 11 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/546 "2007-06-07T18:07:48Z")
I bid 12 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/547 "2007-06-07T20:15:43Z")
Oh, hell with it – 18. I believe that puts it at: **Hal Briston** with 18 **nesta** with 17 **Uncommon Sense** with 16 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/548 "2007-06-07T21:05:54Z")
17 for an S ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/549 "2007-06-07T22:53:54Z")
I’ll go 19. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/550 "2007-06-07T23:27:22Z")
D1138 Offer #15: USCDiver - even switch - the S I own currently for your O. Also, to sum up the bidding as it stands: **Doctor Who** with 19 **Hal Briston** with 18 \*\*nesta \*\*with 17 ( **USCDiver** ’s bid was after this, so **nesta** ’s stands). ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/551 "2007-06-07T23:34:44Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] D1138 Offer #15: USCDiver - even switch - the S I own currently for your O. [/QUOTE] Hmm, interesting move good Doctor in the midst of the S-card auction. However, I see that it is mutually beneficial for the both of it. You moreso than me perhaps but all in all I think a good deal. Good luck in the S card auction if you still need one. I accept, Doctor Who gets one of my O cards, I get his S card ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/552 "2007-06-08T00:15:15Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Also, to sum up the bidding as it stands: **Doctor Who** with 19 **Hal Briston** with 18 \*\*nesta \*\*with 17 ( **USCDiver** ’s bid was after this, so **nesta** ’s stands). [/QUOTE] This matches with my own perusal of the thread. **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: E (3), O (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), N (2), B, G, H, J, K, L, M, P, R, T, U, W owes **The Bank** 82 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20 And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), T (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, O, P, R, U owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 57 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), D (3), B (2), E (2), I (2), H, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 5, 13, 17, 20 And holds these cards: I (2), L (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, N, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 10 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18 And holds these cards: Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, R, S, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/553 "2007-06-08T12:47:27Z")
Topping to get us back on page 1. Heading into Toronto today - there’ll be net access in the hotel and I’ve got my laptop, so I’ll check in from there. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/554 "2007-06-08T15:37:41Z")
when does the closing bell ring chrisk? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/555 "2007-06-08T15:53:59Z")
Looks to me like it should have already closed. At 7:38 am yesterday, **chrisk** said it would “[last] until whenever I get internet access tomorrow”. I had expected his earlier post today to say that it was closed, but I guess it’s running until he gets to the hotel (enjoy Toronto, btw!). ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/556 "2007-06-08T19:22:25Z")
20 pts for the S. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/557 "2007-06-08T20:04:22Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Looks to me like it should have already closed. At 7:38 am yesterday, **chrisk** said it would “[last] until whenever I get internet access tomorrow”. I had expected his earlier post today to say that it was closed, but I guess it’s running until he gets to the hotel (enjoy Toronto, btw!). [/QUOTE] Exactly right. Auction is now over - winners are **Uncommon Sense** bidding 20 points, **Hal Briston** bidding 19 points, and **Doctor Who** bidding 18 points. Toronto’s great so far. I took in a double-decker boat tour, and a boat cruise, and just got checked into my room. 🙂 **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: E (3), O (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), N (2), B, G, H, J, K, L, M, P, R, S, T, U, W owes **The Bank** 101 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20 And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), T (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, O, P, R, S, U owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 75 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), D (3), B (2), E (2), I (2), H, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 5, 13, 17, 20 And holds these cards: I (2), L (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, N, S, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 30 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18 And holds these cards: Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, R, S, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/558 "2007-06-08T20:54:19Z")
Hey **nesta** , want to help your Rule #17 push? A G would be good for that. Hal Offer #16: I’ll give you a G Card and a K Card in exchange for one of your spare I Cards. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/559 "2007-06-08T20:57:11Z")
OK, let’s run something up the flagpole and see who salutes it. In alphabetical order, I’m interested in the following cards: C, D, E, M, N, O, U, Y Takers? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/560 "2007-06-08T21:00:02Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] OK, let’s run something up the flagpole and see who salutes it. In alphabetical order, I’m interested in the following cards: C, D, E, M, N, O, U, Y Takers? [/QUOTE] I could be persuaded to give up an N. What do you have to offer? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=29)