# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/561 "2007-06-08T21:28:38Z")

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> [@Doctor Who](#):
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> I could be persuaded to give up an N. What do you have to offer?

I’m in the market for an N as well. How about…  
Hal Offer #17: I’ll give you a look at Rules #5 and #11 as well as a T Card in exchange for an N Card.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/562 "2007-06-08T22:30:40Z")

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Doc, before you accept that remember, I have seen 5 and can broadcast it if you so desire. I am not saying that this is the way to go, but make sure that it is worth it. Personally I don’t think 5 is that valuable a rule.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/563 "2007-06-08T23:17:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
I’m in the market for an N as well. How about…  
Hal Offer #17: I’ll give you a look at Rules #5 and #11 as well as a T Card in exchange for an N Card.  
[/QUOTE]

I accept.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/564 "2007-06-08T23:37:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
I accept.  
[/QUOTE]

pmd

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/565 "2007-06-08T23:49:15Z")

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D1138 Offer #16: Uncommon Sense - I’ll give you a look at rules 3, 6, and 8 in exchange for an L.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/566 "2007-06-08T23:53:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Hey **nesta** , want to help your Rule #17 push? A G would be good for that.  
Hal Offer #16: I’ll give you a G Card and a K Card in exchange for one of your spare I Cards.  
[/QUOTE]

And nesta — not to undercut Hal whatsoever, but I can help you out more with that Rule #17 push. How’s about this:

D1138 Offer #17: nesta - even swap - I’ll give you a \<drum roll\> B card in exchange for one of your I cards.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/567 "2007-06-08T23:57:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
I could be persuaded to give up an N. What do you have to offer?  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, if it’s for a single N, I don’t think we could work something out. I’m aiming for bulk baby!

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/568 "2007-06-09T02:55:41Z")

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**Uncommon Sense** , I notice you’re the only player left who hasn’t seen Rule 19 and I’m the only player who hasn’t seen Rule 14. Care to trade?

USCDiver Offer #28: A look at Uncommon Sense’s Rule 14 in exchange for a look at my Rule 19.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/569 "2007-06-09T05:18:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
D1138 Offer #16: Uncommon Sense - I’ll give you a look at rules 3, 6, and 8 in exchange for an L.  
[/QUOTE]

Accepted

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/570 "2007-06-09T05:19:18Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
**Uncommon Sense** , I notice you’re the only player left who hasn’t seen Rule 19 and I’m the only player who hasn’t seen Rule 14. Care to trade?

USCDiver Offer #28: A look at Uncommon Sense’s Rule 14 in exchange for a look at my Rule 19.  
[/QUOTE]

Yessir!

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/571 "2007-06-09T10:34:17Z")

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gmorning.

Public service announcement: someone has brought it to my attention that rule slip 17 is somewhat unclear on how many numbers it applies to - this is because I was tweaking it just before the game started and didn’t correct all of the references to the right number.

So… the **first** number mentioned for how many letters it applies to is correct, not the one that is mentioned at the end of the rule text.

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: E (3), O (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), L (2), T (2), B, G, H, J, K, M, N, P, R, S, U, W  
owes **The Bank** 101 points.  
Must give 49% to **NAF1138**

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 9 points.  
owes **The Bank** 28 points.

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, N, O, P, R, S, T, U  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 75 points.

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19  
And holds these cards: A (6), D (3), B (2), E (2), I (2), H, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 240 points.

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y  
owes **The Bank** 6 points.

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: I (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, L, N, S, T, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 14 points.  
owes **The Bank** 30 points.

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, R, S, U, V, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 41 points.  
owes **The Bank** 5 points.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/572 "2007-06-09T13:00:10Z")

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Likewise my deal with **Uncommon Sense** , **nesta** hasn’t seen the incredibly valuable Rule 2.

USCDiver Offer #29a: **nesta** will get a look at rule 2, I will get a look at Rules 3 and 10

or

USCDiver Offer #29b: **nesta** will get a look at rule 2, I will get his Z or X card

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/573 "2007-06-09T18:40:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
OK, let’s run something up the flagpole and see who salutes it. In alphabetical order, I’m interested in the following cards:

C, D, E, M, N, O, U, Y

Takers?  
[/QUOTE]

Ooh, pick me. I’ll do #20a: a D for your C (I know, unlikely, but it might work, right?)

or 20B: a D for your E and your G

or 20c: a D for your E or your G and a look at rule 16.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/574 "2007-06-09T18:54:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]

**Hal** Offer #15 for **Dragoness** : I’ll trade you an L Card in exchange for an X Card.  
[/QUOTE]

Sorry **Hal** , I didn’t mean to ignore this, I just missed it in all the S-auction excitement. It’s a bit awkward for me, since that depended on getting the A, and it looks like I won’t manage that. Sorry.

I’d love to post a few more offers, but it depends on what **Priceguy** accepts… In the meantime, does anyone want a B for anything? Anyone willing to do Offer 21a: My B for an A or C?

Or21b: My X for TWO cards among A, C, or L? ( **Hal** , I’ll give you first crack at that one… what do you say?)

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/575 "2007-06-10T16:03:40Z")

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Aw, c’mon people… **Priceguy**? **Hal**?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/576 "2007-06-10T16:11:29Z")

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Sorry **Dragoness** , I really can’t be making any deals at the moment…I’m visiting family, so I don’t have my handy-dandy Haggle Excel Spreadsheet listing out all my letters and such. I have them broken down into things like “Get rid of for a song” up to “keep, even if someone offers you real-world cash for it”. I’m lost without that spreadsheet.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/577 "2007-06-10T16:49:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Sorry **Dragoness** , I really can’t be making any deals at the moment…I’m visiting family, so I don’t have my handy-dandy Haggle Excel Spreadsheet listing out all my letters and such. I have them broken down into things like “Get rid of for a song” up to “keep, even if someone offers you real-world cash for it”. I’m lost without that spreadsheet.  
[/QUOTE]

Have fun with the family. Pop back in when you get home 🙂

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/578 "2007-06-10T17:24:30Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
USCDiver Offer #29a: **nesta** will get a look at rule 2, I will get a look at Rules 3 and 10  
[/QUOTE]

I accept USCDiver offer #29a. He will show me rule 2 and I will show him rules 3 and 10.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/579 "2007-06-10T18:19:08Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
I accept USCDiver offer #29a. He will show me rule 2 and I will show him rules 3 and 10.  
[/QUOTE]

Trading action, yay! PMed.

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**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/580 "2007-06-10T18:43:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
D1138 Offer #17: nesta - even swap - I’ll give you a \<drum roll\> B card in exchange for one of your I cards.

[/QUOTE]

I accept D1138 offer #17: I will give **Doctor Who** an I card in exchange for a B card.

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