# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 30

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/581 "2007-06-10T18:52:33Z")

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**Dragoness** I notice you haven’t seen some of the most valuable rules yet.

USCDiver Offer #30: for **Dragoness** , in exchange for your X card, I will show you Rules 15 and 17

Rule 17 in particular could be of impressive value to you.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/582 "2007-06-10T19:01:51Z")

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Sorry **USCDive** , but I’m gonna need an actual card.

22a: My X for an A or a C and rule 17  
or  
22b: My X for an A and a C

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/583 "2007-06-10T19:11:02Z")

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I absolutely can’t give up either of those (which you’d know if you had rules 15, 16, 17, hehe).

I would be willing to part with my Q card.

USCDiver counter offer #31: Dragoness’ X card in exchange for my Q card and a look at rule 17

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/584 "2007-06-10T19:12:54Z")

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[QUOTE=nesta]  
I accept D1138 offer #17: I will give **Doctor Who** an I card in exchange for a B card.  
[/QUOTE]

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: E (3), O (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), L (2), T (2), G, H, I, J, K, M, N, P, R, S, U, W  
owes **The Bank** 101 points.  
Must give 49% to **NAF1138**

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 9 points.  
owes **The Bank** 28 points.

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, N, O, P, R, S, T, U  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 75 points.

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19  
And holds these cards: A (6), B (3), D (3), E (2), H, I, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 240 points.

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y  
owes **The Bank** 6 points.

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: I (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, L, N, S, T, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 14 points.  
owes **The Bank** 30 points.

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: Q (2), A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, R, S, U, V, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 41 points.  
owes **The Bank** 5 points.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/585 "2007-06-10T23:53:45Z")

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Well, we’re getting to the endgame now. Here’s some stuff I’m still in the market for: C, D, F, G, H.

I’ve got an A, a J, and a K up for grabs. If you’re looking for rules, I’ve got 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, and 16.

Make me an offer I can’t refuse!

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/586 "2007-06-11T01:14:19Z")

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I wouldn’t mind a look at rule 9, care to make an offer? How about

USCDiver offer #32: **Doctor Who** gets my Q card, I get to see Rule 9

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/587 "2007-06-11T01:19:00Z")

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[QUOTE=USCDiver]  
I wouldn’t mind a look at rule 9, care to make an offer? How about

USCDiver offer #32: **Doctor Who** gets my Q card, I get to see Rule 9  
[/QUOTE]

I accept. PM’d.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/588 "2007-06-11T01:36:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
I accept. PM’d.  
[/QUOTE]

You sent a PM? I didn’t get my copy.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/589 "2007-06-11T01:39:16Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
You sent a PM? I didn’t get my copy.  
[/QUOTE]  
Odd, resent.

ETA: Let me know if it doesn’t come through!

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/590 "2007-06-11T01:43:12Z")

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Update: Retract all outstanding offers.

Sorry for any confusion, but here’s what I’m still in the market for: C, D, F, G, H, and Y.

I’ve got an A, a J, and a K up for grabs and also rules 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/591 "2007-06-11T01:43:26Z")

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Okay, there it is.

**Doctor Who**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: E (3), O (3), A (2), C (2), D (2), F (2), L (2), T (2), G, H, I, J, K, M, N, P, Q, R, S, U, W  
owes **The Bank** 101 points.  
Must give 49% to **NAF1138**

**Dragoness**  
Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: B (2), D (2), F, H, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, X, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 9 points.  
owes **The Bank** 28 points.

**Hal Briston**  
Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15  
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: G (2), K (2), L (2), A, B, D, E, F, H, J, N, O, P, R, S, T, U  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 75 points.

**nesta**  
Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20  
Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19  
And holds these cards: A (6), B (3), D (3), E (2), H, I, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 16 points.  
owes **The Bank** 240 points.

**Priceguy**  
Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19  
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14  
And holds these cards: F (2), P (2), C, D, E, G, M, N, O, R, Y  
owes **The Bank** 6 points.

**Uncommon Sense**  
Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18  
Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20  
And holds these cards: I (2), M (2), C, F, G, H, J, L, N, S, T, Z  
owes **sachertorte** 14 points.  
owes **The Bank** 30 points.

**USCDiver**  
Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20  
Has seen rules: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18  
And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, Q, R, S, U, V, Y  
owes **sachertorte** 41 points.  
owes **The Bank** 5 points.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/592 "2007-06-11T04:30:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]

Sorry for any confusion, but here’s what I’m still in the market for: C, D, F, G, H, and Y.

I’ve got an A, a J, and a K up for grabs and also rules 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16.  
[/QUOTE]

Pick me! 23: My D for Doctor Who’s A

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/593 "2007-06-11T04:54:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
Pick me! 23: My D for Doctor Who’s A  
[/QUOTE]

Mind if I counteroffer, **Dragoness**? I’d really like to get ahold of your Y card. Anyway we could do something like your Y card for my A and a look at rules 15 and 16?

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/594 "2007-06-11T12:04:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Dragoness]  
Aw, c’mon people… **Priceguy**?  
[/QUOTE]  
Sorry, but it looks like I’m not going to be able to arrange any trades that don’t leave me even worse off than I am. I screwed my game up mightily.

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/595 "2007-06-11T13:40:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
Mind if I counteroffer, **Dragoness**? I’d really like to get ahold of your Y card. Anyway we could do something like your Y card for my A and a look at rules 15 and 16?  
[/QUOTE]

Sorry **Doctor** , the Y is in **Hal** ’s “keep, even if someone offers you real-world cash for it” category 🙂

Also sorry, **USCDiver** , I just can’t bring myself to give away much for rules this late in the game… Hopefully that won’t really mess me up.

To reiterate: 23: My D for Doctor Who’s A

21a: My B for an A, C, or L

24: My X for two cards, an A, C, or L and one other card

and retract anything else

Come on **Doctor Who** , that’s a pretty even one-for-one trade…

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/596 "2007-06-11T14:10:27Z")

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> Come on **Doctor Who** , that’s a pretty even one-for-one trade…

😉 I agree. I agree. Let’s do it. I accept - Dragoness gets my A card. I get her D.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/597 "2007-06-11T15:43:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
😉 I agree. I agree. Let’s do it. I accept - Dragoness gets my A card. I get her D.  
[/QUOTE]

Logged.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/598 "2007-06-12T00:24:00Z")

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Everybody done? I’m still in this thing!

Looking for: C, F, G, H, and Y. To trade: J, K, and rules 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16.

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?

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**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/599 "2007-06-12T00:24:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Doctor Who]  
I accept - Dragoness gets my A card. I get her D.  
[/QUOTE]

**Doctor Who** , you rock so hard.

[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Hal Offer #15 for Dragoness: I’ll trade you an L Card in exchange for an X Card  
[/QUOTE]

**Hal** , I would love to Accept the X for the L now, if you’re still extending it…

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/600 "2007-06-12T00:30:24Z")

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Hey, **Dragoness** , what are you doing with that H? I’ve got a shiny J to trade you! Offer #30: My J for Dragoness’s H.

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