# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/601 "2007-06-12T00:58:51Z")
[QUOTE=Dragoness] **Hal** , I would love to Accept the X for the L now, if you’re still extending it… [/QUOTE] I think that offer is still considered open, so I’m logging it in. **Doctor Who** , you’re getting a bit sloppy. Offers are in blue, not green. 😃 And… we’re as near as no odds to three days away from the close of trading bell! Good luck everybody! I just got my scoring routines up and running yesterday, so I now have listings on who’s doing well, who’s doing less well, and how each trade is affecting the standings. But everything could still change **very** quickly, especially if you guys are creative and/or crazy enough! Hagglers away!! ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/602 "2007-06-12T01:02:01Z")
Portfolio listings. I’ve changed the way I’m handling card order slightly. **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, C (2), D (3), E (3), F (2), G, H, I, J, K, L (2), M, N, O (3), P, Q, R, S, T (2), U, W owes **The Bank** 101 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B (2), D, F, H, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, E, F, G (2), H, J, K (2), L, N, O, P, R, S, T, U, X owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 75 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), B (3), D (3), E (2), H, I, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14 And holds these cards: C, D, E, F (2), G, M, N, O, P (2), R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: C, F, G, H, I (2), J, L, M (2), N, S, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 30 points. **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18 And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, Q, R, S, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/603 "2007-06-12T02:17:45Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] **Doctor Who** , you’re getting a bit sloppy. Offers are in blue, not green. 😃 [/QUOTE] Mea culpa! I don’t know why I make this so complicated! From now on, all my offers will be in purple and my acceptances will be in yellow. Unless it’s an odd date, in which case they will be black and a dark slate grey. Of course, if it’s cloudy outside and Hillary is ahead in the polls, I will be posting exclusively in Lime for all transactions. Finally, If I use sandy brown or yellow-green, those are merely red herrings. 😃 Also, Orchid! ETA: On edit, that seems too complicated. I guess I’ll just stick with the blue, green, red scheme that we’ve been using. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/604 "2007-06-12T02:18:10Z")
The only card I still have up for trade is my G, anyone want it? make me an offer I can’t refuse. Also note I’ve seen all the rules now. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/605 "2007-06-12T02:22:30Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] The only card I still have up for trade is my G, anyone want it? make me an offer I can’t refuse. Also note I’ve seen all the rules now. [/QUOTE] Ah yes, you’ve SEEN all the rules, but do you OWN them all? The cool thing to do this season is to collect em’ all! Also, you know, you should be considering secret rule #23. I’ve said too much. So here’s my offer: Offer #31: **USCDiver** - I will give you rule 1, rule 3 and rule 6 for your G. ALSO Offer #32: I will give any accepting player (but only ONE player) a look at secret rule #21 and #22 in exchange for a C card, an F card, a G card, an H card, or a Y card. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/606 "2007-06-12T02:26:09Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Ah yes, you’ve SEEN all the rules, but do you OWN them all? The cool thing to do this season is to collect em’ all! Also, you know, you should be considering secret rule #23. I’ve said too much. So here’s my offer: Offer #31: **USCDiver** - I will give you rule 1, rule 3 and rule 6 for your G. [/QUOTE] USCDiver counter-offer #33: In exchange for me giving you my one and only G card, you will be responsible personally (not as a corporation) for all my outstanding debts, public and private at the closing bell ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/607 "2007-06-12T02:28:02Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] USCDiver counter-offer #33: In exchange for me giving you my one and only G card, you will be responsible personally (not as a corporation) for all my outstanding debts, public and private at the closing bell [/QUOTE] Hahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhha. It is to laugh. Truly. I reject that offer with prejudice. Of course, in the same breath, I urge you to consider my offer #32. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/608 "2007-06-12T02:33:01Z")
I’m going to reject your generous Offer #32, Doctor Who. But other may feel free to consider it, so I won’t put it in red. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/609 "2007-06-12T02:33:28Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Offer #32: I will give any accepting player (but only ONE player) a look at secret rule #21 and #22 in exchange for a C card, an F card, a G card, an H card, or a Y card. [/QUOTE] Ok, **USCDiver** , I will sweeten the deal for YOU and YOU only. Here goes: Offer #32(a) - **USCDiver** - in exchange for your G card, I will give you a look at secret rule #21, #22 AND the heretofore alluded to secret rule #23. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/610 "2007-06-12T02:35:23Z")
I’ll have to see some offical seal of authenticity to prove that Secret Rules 21-23 are endorsed by chrisk and will be taken into account come scoring time. **chrisk** can you confirm or deny the existence of Secret Rules 21-23? ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/611 "2007-06-12T02:38:26Z")
Yaay for secret rules 21 and 22 🆒 But on a more serious note, I’m almost done trading… there are merely two little matters left to deal with, and I think they’re better done with points than cards now that our portfolios are getting so set. So… 25: I will sell my B for two points (seems fair to me…) 26: I will buy someone’s C for 16 points (more than it went for at auction) If that isn’t enough for the C, tell me what you would accept ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/612 "2007-06-12T02:39:56Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] I’ll have to see some offical seal of authenticity to prove that Secret Rules 21-23 are endorsed by chrisk and will be taken into account come scoring time. **chrisk** can you confirm or deny the existence of Secret Rules 21-23? [/QUOTE] Are you impugning my honor, sir? What makes you think that even the great and powerful **chrisk** , behind his purple curtains and smoke machines, knows or has any cause to know the secret rules? Marilyn Vos Savant has the highest IQ in the world, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, and George W. is the most powerful man in the world, but even THEY don’t know who killed Kennedy. That’s because it’s a SECRET. These are SECRET RULES. Secrets on par with the Kennedy Assassination, the contents of hot dogs, Coca-Cola’s secret formula, and what you call the offspring of a shetland pony and a hippopotomous. Secrets. Do you want to know them or not? ETA: By the way, for yaying the secret rules, **Dragoness** , I am personally going to PM you secret rule #21. Do with it as you wish, but respect its awesome power!!! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/613 "2007-06-12T02:49:19Z")
um, ok no… Everyone else… the G card is still on the table. ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/614 "2007-06-12T02:54:51Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] um, ok no… Everyone else… the G card is still on the table. [/QUOTE] Well, the only offer I have there is 27: G for the B. Want it? ETA: Rule 21 is a thing of beauty. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/615 "2007-06-12T03:03:01Z")
[QUOTE=Dragoness] Well, the only offer I have there is 27: G for the B. Want it? ETA: Rule 21 is a thing of beauty. [/QUOTE] No thanks ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/616 "2007-06-12T09:53:46Z")
There are only 20 rules. Seriously. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/617 "2007-06-12T13:08:11Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] There are only 20 rules. Seriously. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Yes, and I’d like to thank the generous person who traded rule # 19 to me. I’d like to, but I won’t. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/618 "2007-06-12T14:08:20Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] Yes, and I’d like to thank the generous person who traded rule # 19 to me. I’d like to, but I won’t. [/QUOTE] I tried that back on [page six](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8616258&postcount=264) and he took absolutely no notice. le sigh. Incidentally, **USCDiver** , I think I’ve spelled your name right, what, twice this whole game? Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/619 "2007-06-12T16:50:05Z")
**USCDiver** , I wouldn’t mind having a G. How 'bout nesta offer #20: I will trade **USCDiver** an H for his G. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/620 "2007-06-12T17:49:33Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] **USCDiver** , I wouldn’t mind having a G. How 'bout nesta offer #20: I will trade **USCDiver** an H for his G. [/QUOTE] Nah, I don’t think I need to give you a G card [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=32)