# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/661 "2007-06-14T19:36:22Z")
Can we get point for rules we don’t know about? If so, how? Like I’m sure there’a a rule that if you have CFGHJLNSTZ that you should get a bonus of 600pts but I haven’t seen it so then what? ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/662 "2007-06-14T19:42:11Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Well, let’s see if I’m still _persona non grata_… Third Party Counteroffer: Hal - My I card for your G, G, J, K, and K cards. [/QUOTE] :eek: 😕☹ Aw. All my chances of winning this thing just went out the window. So sad. Well, **chrisk** , I might as well annouce that my portfolio is complete as well. I’ll turn everything in. Er, do you want an official PM? Should I try to score it myself? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/663 "2007-06-14T20:24:10Z")
Don’t be so hasty there, **Dragoness** …check Post #657. You can still pick yourself up a spiffy X Card and Rule Slip #15 for the low, low price of either a M Card or a W Card (your choice)! ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/664 "2007-06-14T20:48:07Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] Can we get point for rules we don’t know about? If so, how? Like I’m sure there’a a rule that if you have CFGHJLNSTZ that you should get a bonus of 600pts but I haven’t seen it so then what? [/QUOTE] You hand in a portfolio with those cards, and I score it against the master list of the rules, and assign you the bonus. To clarify, for everybody, you are NOT expected to quote any rules, or mention any points with your portfolio. You simply tell me which cards you are handing in. I do the scoring. Okay everybody?? ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/665 "2007-06-14T20:49:58Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] You simply tell me which cards you are handing in. I do the scoring. [/QUOTE] You don’t have to hand in all your cards? Man, did I ever fuck up in this game. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/666 "2007-06-14T21:00:30Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] You don’t have to hand in all your cards? Man, did I ever fuck up in this game. [/QUOTE] Okay, I guess I thought I didn’t need to harp on it, but… in my OP: > [@](#): > > - Time limit of the game will be around three weeks, with up to a day at the end between ‘trade deadline’ and ‘submission deadline.’ If any player is unable to send a submission message, the assumption will be that they submit everything they have, which will almost certainly be better than giving them no score at all. I guess I never mentioned it since then. ☹ And that wasn’t really clear. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/667 "2007-06-14T21:12:39Z")
**chrisk** , could you PM me or mention in thread which rule I missed in my calculation of my score? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/668 "2007-06-14T21:13:32Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] **chrisk** , could you PM me or mention in thread which rule I missed in my calculation of my score? [/QUOTE] No I will not, sorry… you’ll find out when the full scores are announced. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/669 "2007-06-14T21:39:19Z")
On the off chance that someone wants to, nesta offer #22: I will trade anyone an H card for a G. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/670 "2007-06-14T22:38:53Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] On the off chance that someone wants to, nesta offer #22: I will trade anyone an H card for a G. [/QUOTE] I accept. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/671 "2007-06-14T22:43:47Z")
**Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, C (2), D (3), E (3), F (2), H (2), I, J, K, L (2), M, N, O (3), P, Q, R, S, T (2), U, W owes **The Bank** 101 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, F, H, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, E, F, G (2), H, J, K (2), L, N, O, P, R, S, T, U, X owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 75 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), B (3), D (3), E (2), G, I, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** (submitted early) Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14, 17 And holds these cards: C, D, E, F (2), G, M, N, O, P (2), R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: C, F, G, H, I (2), J, L, M (2), N, S, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 30 points. **USCDiver** (submitted early) Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18 And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, Q, R, S, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/672 "2007-06-14T22:57:32Z")
Arright…time to sign off from work, so it’s Haggle card submission time. However it turns out, great game all, and big thanks to **chrisk**! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/673 "2007-06-14T23:14:36Z")
Man, I am going to be out of town this weekend! I won’t be able to find out what happens till Tuesday. BAH! ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/674 "2007-06-14T23:15:16Z")
Ignore the update in 671, and thanks to the good **Doctor** for clueing me in that I was way off base there. This should be better: **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, C (2), D (3), E (3), F (2), G (3), H, J (2), K (3), L (2), M, N, O (3), P, Q, R, S, T (2), U, W owes **The Bank** 101 points. Must give 49% to **NAF1138** **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, F, H, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, V, W, Y owes **sachertorte** 9 points. owes **The Bank** 28 points. **Hal Briston** (Submitted already) Holds rules: 1, 5, 6, 11, 12, 14, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 And holds these cards: A, B, D, E, F, H, I, L, N, O, P, R, S, T, U, X owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 75 points. **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 3, 8, 10, 11, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19 And holds these cards: A (6), B (3), D (3), E (2), H, I, M, Q, R, U, W, X, Z owes **sachertorte** 16 points. owes **The Bank** 240 points. **Priceguy** (submitted already) Holds rules: 2, 3, 7, 13, 16, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5, 10, 11, 14, 17 And holds these cards: C, D, E, F (2), G, M, N, O, P (2), R, Y owes **The Bank** 6 points. **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20 And holds these cards: C, F, G, H, I (2), J, L, M (2), N, S, T, Z owes **sachertorte** 14 points. owes **The Bank** 30 points. **USCDiver** (submitted already) Holds rules: 2, 15, 17, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18 And holds these cards: A, C, D, E, G, I, J, K, O, Q, R, S, U, V, Y owes **sachertorte** 41 points. owes **The Bank** 5 points. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/675 "2007-06-14T23:18:49Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Man, I am going to be out of town this weekend! I won’t be able to find out what happens till Tuesday. BAH! [/QUOTE] Well, at this rate, I might be able to post scores tomorrow morning. Not that everybody HAS to submit tonight, but we’ve got 3 players doing so, with over an hour and a half to go in trading, and a planned 24 hour submission period after that. Guess maybe it didn’t need to be that long, or everybody’s impatient for the game to end! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/676 "2007-06-15T00:10:25Z")
50 minutes and counting… ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/677 "2007-06-15T00:45:05Z")
15 minutes left. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/678 "2007-06-15T01:01:51Z")
Okay. Trading has now closed. **Dragoness** has confirmed her portfolio submissions. Waiting now on PMs from **nesta** , **Doctor Who** and **Uncommon sense** A list of cards is preferred for what you send in your pms, along with ‘final answer’ or something of that sort. 😉 Scoring talk is sortof discouraged. Thanks for playing, and I’ll move the final stages of the game along as quickly as I can! But need to sleep very soon. 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/679 "2007-06-15T10:16:15Z")
Okay, we’re almost ready! I’m still waiting on a submission from **Uncommon Sense** , since he tried submitting once before, but I felt I needed to ask for a clarification. Probably won’t be able to do any real scoring until after I’m back home from work, but once all submissions are in I’ll try to post the rules here in the thread, and you guys can then talk amongst yourselves about anything game-related. Including trying to guess who won before I post the official results, if you so please. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/680 "2007-06-15T12:05:22Z")
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