# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/61 "2007-05-25T06:48:11Z")
All players should have a PM with the text of their rules now. (If by some freak chance anybody doesn’t, PM me or say so here.) Trade offers may now begin. Trade deadline is Thursday, June 14th, at 9 pm eastern, that’s not quite 3 weeks away, with a final submission deadline one day later, Friday the 15th at 9 pm. Then, I can score and hopefully announce a winner that Saturday. Good luck, all Hagglers! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/62 "2007-05-25T07:01:30Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] All players should have a PM with the text of their rules now. (If by some freak chance anybody doesn’t, PM me or say so here.) Trade offers may now begin. Trade deadline is Thursday, June 14th, at 9 pm eastern, that’s not quite 3 weeks away, with a final submission deadline one day later, Friday the 15th at 9 pm. Then, I can score and hopefully announce a winner that Saturday. Good luck, all Hagglers! [/QUOTE] Bossperson, can we get a quick tally of how many of each rule and letter are in play? Or do I need to do that myself? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/63 "2007-05-25T07:10:28Z")
Woohoo, first offer! USCDiver offer #1: I offer **Hal Briston** Rule 19 for Rule 1 ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/64 "2007-05-25T07:17:15Z")
Well as long as we’re both up: **Doctor Who** Offer #1: I will give **USCDiver** a look at Rule #8 in exchange for an O card. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/65 "2007-05-25T07:23:42Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Well as long as we’re both up: **Doctor Who** Offer #1: I will give **USCDiver** a look at Rule #8 in exchange for an O card. [/QUOTE] **USCDiver** counter Offer: I already have Rule #8, clown, I would like Rule #13 and an A card in exchange for O card ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/66 "2007-05-25T07:25:11Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] **USCDiver** counter Offer: I already have Rule #8, clown, I would like Rule #13 and an A card in exchange for O card [/QUOTE] Oh, deary dear. My mistake - I must be more careful with such details. Please accept my humblest of apologies. I will consider your … generous … offer carefully. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/67 "2007-05-25T07:29:34Z")
Bossperson, a couple of my rules are a bit confusing. I’m not sure if it’s part of the game or not, but can I ask for clarification in PM? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/68 "2007-05-25T07:47:14Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Bossperson, a couple of my rules are a bit confusing. I’m not sure if it’s part of the game or not, but can I ask for clarification in PM? [/QUOTE] You may ask, but you might not receive any helpful answer. Some of the rules are enigmatic by design, and will become clearer if and when you can acquire further info. And you didn’t number your offer to **Doctor Who** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/69 "2007-05-25T07:50:17Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] You may ask, but you might not receive any helpful answer. Some of the rules are enigmatic by design, and will become clearer if and when you can acquire further info. And you didn’t number your offer to **Doctor Who** [/QUOTE] My bad, I didn’t know if ‘counter offers’ would get a new numbering system separate from ‘offers’ ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/70 "2007-05-25T07:52:43Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] My bad, I didn’t know if ‘counter offers’ would get a new numbering system separate from ‘offers’ [/QUOTE] No, You can say ‘as a counter-offer, I would like to propose ChrisK offer #4…’ or something. The fact that they’re counter-offers doesn’t matter, and we’ll probably get to counter-counter-counter-offers before this is through, if not further. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/71 "2007-05-25T07:59:02Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] No, You can say ‘as a counter-offer, I would like to propose ChrisK offer #4…’ or something. The fact that they’re counter-offers doesn’t matter, and we’ll probably get to counter-counter-counter-offers before this is through, if not further. 😃 [/QUOTE] Roger that. Do you have an official title? I don’t even know if you’re a chick or a dude. Also any thoughts on giving out totals for Letters and Rules available in the game? ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/72 "2007-05-25T08:10:10Z")
Omi no Kami Offer #1: I’ll give **Doctor Who** a T in exchange for seeing card #13 before he gives it away. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/73 "2007-05-25T08:12:31Z")
Omi no Kami Offer #2: I will let anybody look at rule #7 in exchange for an M card. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/74 "2007-05-25T08:15:37Z")
Well that is an interesting thought… How about this? Straight up - no whammies - let’s just get this over with and start winning this game? Doctor Who Offer #2: I’ll give Omi no Kami a look at Rule #13 in exchange for a look at Rule #14. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/75 "2007-05-25T08:16:29Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] Omi no Kami Offer #2: I will let anybody look at rule #7 in exchange for an M card. [/QUOTE] As a counter offer USCDiver Offer #3: Since I don’t have an M, I will give you Rule 19 for a look at Rule 7 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/76 "2007-05-25T08:27:41Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Roger that. Do you have an official title? I don’t even know if you’re a chick or a dude. Also any thoughts on giving out totals for Letters and Rules available in the game? [/QUOTE] Mister Chris, Honored Moderator, HaggleMaster, any of those titles will do just fine. 😉 As far as totals - I’m not going to give you those total counts, when the information is all available in the kickoff update. If you want me to take a look at what you’ve added up and see if it matches my own notes, I’ll be happy to. (On the other hand, it might be better just to come up with your own counts and not post them for other players to see. 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/77 "2007-05-25T08:28:28Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] As a counter offer USCDiver Offer #3: Since I don’t have an M, I will give you Rule 19 for a look at Rule 7 [/QUOTE] As a counter offer: Omi no Kami Offer #3: I will let you look at rule 13 in return for getting a look at rule 19 ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/78 "2007-05-25T08:30:08Z")
Chrisk, I’d like to clarify something: is this a zero-sum game (meaning what we start with is all we’ve got), or is there the potential for new letters to be added as play progresses? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/79 "2007-05-25T08:35:13Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] Chrisk, I’d like to clarify something: is this a zero-sum game (meaning what we start with is all we’ve got), or is there the potential for new letters to be added as play progresses? [/QUOTE] There will be no rule slips or cards added as play progressed. However, it’s not ‘zero-sum’ in a scoring sense, as there are many possible reorganizations of the available cards that will lead to higher scores than what the starting kits are worth. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/80 "2007-05-25T09:41:08Z")
Priceguy offer #1: I offer **percypercy** an R card and an O card in exchange for a U card and a look at rule 14. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=5)