# Haggle - a game of trading and secrets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136 "2007-05-22T21:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/161 "2007-05-25T20:42:50Z")
Hey, just got back on… will post an update and some PM’s in a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/162 "2007-05-25T20:54:10Z")
After-work update: **billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), R (2), B, P, Q, U, Y **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 17 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 8, 9, 11, 19 And holds these cards: D (4), B, H, M, P, R, W, X **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15 Has seen rules: 3, 4, 19 And holds these cards: D (2), F (2), P (2), A, G, Q, T, U **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5 And holds these cards: A (2), B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), C, E, H, M, W, X, Z **Omi no Kami** Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: B (2), T (2), A, E, J, L, N, O, V **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, U, Y **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 14 And holds these cards: F (2), L (2), E, G, I, M, N, O, R, Y **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 13 And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19 Has seen rules: 4, 5 And holds these cards: O (2), B, C, E, G, J, K, Q, S, T If this doesn’t look right, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/163 "2007-05-25T20:55:11Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Counter offer: Since 4 people hold Rule 1 and only 3 people hold Rule 2, care to sweeten the deal by including a D, F or P card? That would be: You see Rule 2 in exchange for me seeing Rule 1 and getting a D, F or P card. [/QUOTE] Counter-Counteroffer: I show you Rule #1 and give a P Card in exchange for a look at Rule #2 and a B card. I don’t know if Rule #2 would change the situation, but from what I know, it’s quite the favorable deal for you. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/164 "2007-05-25T20:58:00Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Counter-Counteroffer: I show you Rule #1 and give a P Card in exchange for a look at Rule #2 and a B card. I don’t know if Rule #2 would change the situation, but from what I know, it’s quite the favorable deal for you. [/QUOTE] I accept your offer: I get a look at Rule #1 and a P card, you get a look at Rule #2 and a B card ---
**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/165 "2007-05-25T20:58:26Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Sorry, I have no Z Card. If you choose, my original counteroffer still stands: I’ll trade **percypercy** a P Card and a look at Rule 15 in exchange for a Y Card and a look at Rule 6. [/QUOTE] I’m sorry, that was incompetent. Let’s try, Counter Offer: I’ll trade **Hal** a A Y card and a look at rule 6 for a Q card and a look at Rule 15. I think that’s PercyPercy Offer #4 -Lil ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/166 "2007-05-25T20:58:56Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] I accept **Omi no Kami** ’s offer #3 to look at Rule 13 in exchange for looking at Rule 19 [/QUOTE] Sorry I missed this one. Looks like it’s not valid, since **Olsi no Kami** has never had rule 13. Maybe he or she meant #14, but the trade must be offered anew. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/167 "2007-05-25T20:59:23Z")
USCDiver offer #4 hereby officially withdrawn ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/168 "2007-05-25T21:01:51Z")
[QUOTE=percypercy] I’m sorry, that was incompetent. Let’s try, Counter Offer: I’ll trade **Hal** a A Y card and a look at rule 6 for a Q card and a look at Rule 15. I think that’s PercyPercy Offer #4 -Lil [/QUOTE] I accept – I give a Q Card and a look at Rule #15 in exchange for a Y Card and a look at Rule #6. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/169 "2007-05-25T21:02:10Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] Sorry I missed this one. Looks like it’s not valid, since **Olsi no Kami** has never had rule 13. Maybe he or she meant #14, but the trade must be offered anew. [/QUOTE] Dammit. USCDiver offer #5: I offer Omi no Kami a look at Rule #19 in exchange for a look at rule #14 ---
**Author:** ![billyb0b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@billyb0b](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billyb0b)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/170 "2007-05-25T21:03:14Z")
Offer # 2 **nesta** I will let you peek at any 3 rules for both of your A cards. ---
**Author:** ![billyb0b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@billyb0b](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billyb0b)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/171 "2007-05-25T21:15:27Z")
**billyb0b** offer #3: **USCDiver** I’ll give P card and peek at uber-valuable #13 for a look at #2 ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/172 "2007-05-25T21:21:28Z")
Hal offer #4: **billyb0b** – I’ll trade you a D Card and a look at Rule #5, in exchange for an R Card and a look at Rule #13. You’ll find this had a nice mutually beneficial tact to it, once you see Rule #5. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/173 "2007-05-25T21:23:38Z")
Okay, I’m caught up again, despite the fact that my internet cut out for a while there. Hopefully I’ll have time to scrounge some dinner now. 😃 Figure that as this continues, I’ll have to step back from approving and facilitating each trade, (especially since I can’t keep spending this much time on the dope from work,) but these first few days are probably when most issues will arise. If I haven’t been around in 25 minutes or more, and it’s been a little while since the trade was settled on, then go ahead and go via pm. One suggestion - mention in the text that you’re sending to both me and the trading partner, since that isn’t clear from the SDMB pm system. Update: **billyb0b** Holds rules: 3, 8, 13, 17 Has seen rules: 1, 6, 9, 12, 16 And holds these cards: A (3), R (2), B, P, Q, U, Y **Doctor Who** Holds rules: 1, 6, 12, 16 Has seen rules: 3, 4, 8, 13, 14, 17 And holds these cards: N (2), A, D, E, L, M, O, P, R, S **Dragoness** Holds rules: 4, 5, 13, 18 Has seen rules: 8, 9, 11, 19 And holds these cards: D (4), B, H, M, P, R, W, X **Hal Briston** Holds rules: 1, 5, 11, 15 Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 6, 19 And holds these cards: D (2), F (2), A, B, G, P, T, U, Y **MadTheSwine** Holds rules: 1, 9, 12, 19 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: S (3), E (2), H (2), C, F, K, V **NAF1138** Holds rules: 3, 9, 15, 20 Has seen rules: 4, 5 And holds these cards: A (2), B, C, D, G, J, K, O, R, U, W **nesta** Holds rules: 1, 10, 11, 17 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: A (2), I (2), C, E, H, M, W, X, Z **Omi no Kami** Holds rules: 4, 7, 14, 20 Has seen rules: And holds these cards: B (2), T (2), A, E, J, L, N, O, V **percypercy** Holds rules: 3, 6, 14, 18 Has seen rules: 13, 15 And holds these cards: D (2), E, F, G, H, I, K, O, Q, U **Priceguy** Holds rules: 2, 7, 13, 16 Has seen rules: 14 And holds these cards: F (2), L (2), E, G, I, M, N, O, R, Y **Uncommon Sense** Holds rules: 2, 10, 14, 17 Has seen rules: 13 And holds these cards: M (2), C, F, G, I, J, L, N, Z **USCDiver** Holds rules: 2, 8, 15, 19 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 5 And holds these cards: O (2), C, E, G, J, K, P, Q, S, T ---
**Author:** ![billyb0b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@billyb0b](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billyb0b)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/174 "2007-05-25T21:23:38Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Hal offer #4: **billyb0b** – I’ll trade you a D Card and a look at Rule #5, in exchange for an R Card and a look at Rule #13. You’ll find this had a nice mutually beneficial tact to it, once you see Rule #5. [/QUOTE] **billyb0b** accepts **Hal Briston** offer #? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/175 "2007-05-25T21:26:13Z")
[QUOTE=billyb0b] **billyb0b** accepts **Hal Briston** offer #? [/QUOTE] pm sent. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/176 "2007-05-25T21:26:37Z")
[QUOTE=billyb0b] **billyb0b** offer #3: **USCDiver** I’ll give P card and peek at uber-valuable #13 for a look at #2 [/QUOTE] Counter offer: You get a look at Rule 19 and an O card in exchange for Rule 13 and a U or Y card ---
**Author:** ![billyb0b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@billyb0b](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billyb0b)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/177 "2007-05-25T21:29:47Z")
[QUOTE=USCDiver] Counter offer: A look at Rule 19 and an O card in exchange for Rule 13 and a U or Y card [/QUOTE] counter-counter offer: **billyb0b** gets look at 2 for look at 13 and Y or U ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/178 "2007-05-25T21:38:17Z")
Remember, numbering in sequence makes things a lot easier, guys, even on counter-counter-offers. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/179 "2007-05-25T21:38:45Z")
[QUOTE=billyb0b] counter-counter offer: **billyb0b** gets look at 2 for look at 13 and Y or U [/QUOTE] Accept offer from billyb0b: You get Rule 2, I get Rule 13 and a Y ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136/180 "2007-05-25T21:40:29Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] Remember, numbering in sequence makes things a lot easier, guys, even on counter-counter-offers. [/QUOTE] As long as we’re quoting I think it’s ok. I’m unsure where I am in my own offer numbering and do I number counter offers based on the original offer number or based on where I am in my own series? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-a-game-of-trading-and-secrets/405136.md?page=10)