# Haggle: St.Valentine's Day **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232 "2011-02-22T15:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/261 "2011-03-04T04:08:37Z")
Hey guys. I JUST got home and over here to the thread. I have Tomorrow off and will work on this then. Suffice to say today sucked for me at work. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/262 "2011-03-04T13:26:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Hey, I’m busy for a bit, but write up the deal and offer it to me and I’ll consider it. I need you to get me the copy of rule three that Ben has also. Can you do it? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/263 "2011-03-04T13:28:53Z")
Actually, Ben, you interested in trading me a copy of rule three for my copy of rule six and the Forever Yours heart? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/264 "2011-03-04T14:30:37Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I need you to get me the copy of rule three that Ben has also. Can you do it? > [@NAF1138](#): > > Actually, Ben, you interested in trading me a copy of rule three for my copy of rule six and the Forever Yours heart? Make sure everyone is considering rule 13 when they start talking about getting NAF rule 3. Based on Rule 20 let’s start talking trading for roses. **Digger offer 13: Open offer I will trade 1 conversation heart for a rose of the same color** ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/265 "2011-03-04T15:00:57Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Actually, Ben, you interested in trading me a copy of rule three for my copy of rule six and the Forever Yours heart? No. I already hold a copy of rule 6. @ **Oredigger** : I got rule 13 in the auction too. I have no intention of letting NAF get his paws on rule 3. It’s not like he needs another rule. According to my list, I still haven’t seen rules 10 or 19. I want to confirm from Meeko’s official list. Then I’m willing to deal. Meanwhile, the line for peeks at rule 3 forms over there: =====\> :)😕:eek:🆒:rolleyes::mad::p;):D:(:dubious::o ETA: Housekeeping. Withdraw all outstanding offers until I see The Holdings List. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/266 "2011-03-04T15:09:10Z")
Meeko and I needed to confer on the holdings list after the auction - I haven’t gotten his final signoff on this, but I don’t see any reason to have you wait on the news longer: **Antinor01** Holds rules: 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 12 Has seen rules: 2, 5, 9, 11, 18, 19 And holds these items: 1 Pink Rose, 2 White Rose, 1 Gold Ring, 1 Platinum Necklace, 6 Red Conversation Heart, 1 White Conversation Heart **Mahaloth** Holds rules: 5, 13, 15, 16, 18 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 6, 12, 14, 17 And holds these items: 2 White Rose, 1 Silver Ring, 1 Silver Necklace, 1 Pink Conversation Heart, 6 Red Conversation Heart, 1 White Conversation Heart **NAF1138** Holds rules: 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 17 Has seen rules: 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20 And holds these items: 3 Pink Rose, 1 Red Rose, 4 White Rose, 1 Vase of water, 1 Be Mine Heart, 1 Forever Yours Heart, 3 Red Conversation Heart, 1 White Conversation Heart owes **The Bank** 3 points. Has agreed not to use the Forever Yours Heart against **Oredigger77** **Oredigger77** Holds rules: 2, 5, 9, 11, 18, 19 Has seen rules: 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20 And holds these items: 1 Pink Rose, 1 Red Rose, 3 Vase of water, 1 Gold Earring, 1 Platinum Earring, 1 Silver Earring, 2 Pink Conversation Heart, 5 Red Conversation Heart, 1 White Conversation Heart owes **The Bank** 5 points. Has a deal of immunity against the Forever Yours Heart from **NAF1138** **Pedescribe** Holds rules: 10, 11, 14, 15, 19, 20 Has seen rules: 2, 5, 9 And holds these items: 1 Pink Rose, 1 Red Rose, 4 White Rose, 1 Platinum Ring, 7 Pink Conversation Heart, 1 Red Conversation Heart, 1 Box of Chocolates owes **The Bank** 60 points. Holds a second copy of Rule 10 **Scuba\_Ben** Holds rules: 3, 6, 8, 9, 13, 14, 17, 20 Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18 And holds these items: 1 Gold Necklace, 2 Pink Conversation Heart, 8 Red Conversation Heart, 4 White Conversation Heart owes **The Bank** 63 points. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/267 "2011-03-04T15:39:29Z")
**Mahaloth Offer 16: Pedescribe, I’ll give you 2 Red Conversation Hearts and a White Rose and a free look at any TWO rules of mine for your platinum ring and a look at rule 10** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/268 "2011-03-04T15:47:41Z")
**Mahaloth Offer 17: Antinor, I’ll give you looks at any TWO rules, 2 Red Conversation Hearts, and a White Rose for your gold ring and a look at rule 18** ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/269 "2011-03-04T16:04:52Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Meeko and ChrisK** , > > Has Antinor dropped out? He has not responded to my offers and he did not put a bid in for the auction. No. Sorry, things have been crazy busy at work this week and I’ve been working late and have just been too tired to even think about it. (Unexpected visits from senior management, several people out sick and crap like that) I apologize for not checking on this more, but ‘real life’ had to come first. I’ll try to get caught up this evening. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/270 "2011-03-04T16:09:08Z")
Thanks, **chrisk**. I see no reason for me to hide rule 3. I’m willing to deal. Ben #13: Will show Pedescribe rule 3 and give rule 6 in exchange for seeing rules 10 and 19. 2 rules for 2 rules. Ben #14: Will show Mahaloth rule 3 in exchange for 10 points, the silver necklace, and an alliance offer to negotiate for Antinor’s gold ring and platinum necklace (you get the ring, I get the necklace). Ben #14: Will show Oredigger rule 3 in exchange for 30 points. **Antinor** , let me know when you come back; let’s make a deal. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/271 "2011-03-04T16:52:42Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > No. Sorry, things have been crazy busy at work this week and I’ve been working late and have just been too tired to even think about it. (Unexpected visits from senior management, several people out sick and crap like that) > > I apologize for not checking on this more, but ‘real life’ had to come first. I’ll try to get caught up this evening. I can understand. Hopefully I wasn’t incoherent last night. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/272 "2011-03-04T17:15:18Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Ben #14: Will show Oredigger rule 3 in exchange for 30 points. I don’t care that much about the rule but; **I will take all 4 of your white conversation hearts and a look at rule 3 for 20 points** ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/273 "2011-03-04T17:50:28Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > No. I already hold a copy of rule 6. Sorry, I thought I was handing you a weapon. I should have looked at your holdings first. Ben, in that case: NAF offer BenMail: You give me rule three in exchange for me not telling the whole game what the rule says negating any value it has for you. BenMail. Get it? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/274 "2011-03-04T18:20:08Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > BenMail. Umm . . . I think everyone but Pede and Maha has seen the rule anyhow. Not very good leverage. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/275 "2011-03-04T18:22:11Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Thanks, **chrisk**. > > Ben #14: Will show Mahaloth rule 3 in exchange for 10 points, the silver necklace, and an alliance offer to negotiate for Antinor’s gold ring and platinum necklace (you get the ring, I get the necklace). I’m open to a like this deal except for the 10 points part and the fact that there is no guarantee I would get Antinor’s ring. Seems like a lot of risk, while losing the necklace and 10 points. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/276 "2011-03-04T19:05:28Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I don’t care that much about the rule but; > **I will take all 4 of your white conversation hearts and a look at rule 3 for 20 points** Make it 2 hearts and you have a deal. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m open to a like this deal except for the 10 points part and the fact that there is no guarantee I would get Antinor’s ring. > > Seems like a lot of risk, while losing the necklace and 10 points. Make a counter-offer, and we’ll… uh, what’s a short word meaning “to discuss relative values of exchange offers”? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/277 "2011-03-04T19:06:29Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > NAF offer BenMail: > > You give me rule three in exchange for me not telling the whole game what the rule says negating any value it has for you. > > BenMail. Get it? Yes. I get it. I’m thinking it over. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/278 "2011-03-04T19:53:33Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Make it 2 hearts and you have a deal. **Digger offer 15; Ben I’ll give you 10 points for 2 white hearts and a look at rule 3** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/279 "2011-03-04T19:54:54Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Sorry, I thought I was handing you a weapon. I should have looked at your holdings first. > > Ben, in that case: > > NAF offer BenMail: > > You give me rule three in exchange for me not telling the whole game what the rule says negating any value it has for you. > > BenMail. Get it? You mean, someone would actually acquire rules to tell everyone that rule at once, to lock down a portion of the game? \*\* Wow. That’s a great Idea! Why didn’t I ever think of that?\*\* 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/280 "2011-03-04T20:03:57Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\* > Wow. That’s a great Idea! Why didn’t I ever think of that?\*\* 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 I hate you. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232.md?page=15)