# Haggle: St.Valentine's Day **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232 "2011-02-22T15:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/321 "2011-03-07T23:31:26Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’ve seen the three of a kind rule but not a set rule. I figure that’s what was in rule 10 but I guess we’ll never know. > > So Pede do you want to do some trading? I’m very interested in your roses. How coincidental! I’m interested in your roses. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/322 "2011-03-07T23:39:42Z")
Pede did you see [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13542096&postcount=305)post? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/323 "2011-03-08T00:40:25Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Well, no-one took me up on my offer, so… > > **I burn both my slips of Rule 10** \*\*I’m not exactly sure what you mean here. \*\* 1. Why burn them at all? 2. How exactly are you going to burn them? 3. Really? 4. It flies in the face of my opening rule : \*\*2.EVERYTHING you are holding at the end of the game will be turned in and scored for you, automatically. \*\* 1. It starts a precedent that I will not accept. 2. If you want to squat on them, that’s fine, but I don’t get the over reaching destruction here. 3. Chrisk has this to add to it : \*\* Legal actions in Haggle are trades with other players. If you want to do something that’s not a trade with another player, and it’s not specifically sanctioned by the rule and the moderator, you’re outta luck.\*\* \*\*So, Pede still holds both copies of 10. EVERYTHING will be turned in. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/324 "2011-03-08T18:15:52Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Pede did you see [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13542096&postcount=305)post? I suppose you must have. Rule 10 isn’t going to apply to you Pede, you aren’t going to be able to get what you need in time. I am offering you something real in exchange for something that you only think might have value for you. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/325 "2011-03-08T18:28:03Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > How coincidental! I’m interested in your roses. > [@NAF1138](#): > > Rule 10 isn’t going to apply to you Pede, you aren’t going to be able to get what you need in time. I am offering you something real in exchange for something that you only think might have value for you. I’m very curious about rule 10 since it doesn’t seem to be what I thought it was about. We’re coming down to the final 24 hours and I’m not willing to pay for information that I won’t have time to act on. I guess it has to do with the rose collection that NAF has been amassing since he’s been the only one to see the rule and based on Pede paid for the auction it’s one hell of a point bonus. ETA: I’m guessing it a dozen roses bonus ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/326 "2011-03-08T18:50:00Z")
naf offer digger: Give me five points off your total score or one of your ear rings and I am happy to tell you exactly what rule ten says. I’ll tell you this much, you are wrong in your suspicion ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/327 "2011-03-08T18:51:15Z")
well you are partially wrong. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/328 "2011-03-08T18:55:31Z")
Is anyone interested in the heart/rule six combo I offered to pede? It isn’t as great a deal for anyone as it is for him, but if anyone is interested it still has more value for you than for me. Actually it probably isn’t a great deal for Ben, but I think he knows that. Good deal for anyone else. Even you Digger. I’ll hand them to you for an earring or a Red flower and a promise of immunity. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/329 "2011-03-08T19:42:45Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Is anyone interested in the heart/rule six combo I offered to pede? It isn’t as great a deal for anyone as it is for him, but if anyone is interested it still has more value for you than for me. > > Actually it probably isn’t a great deal for Ben, but I think he knows that. Good deal for anyone else. Even you Digger. I’ll hand them to you for an earring or a Red flower and a promise of immunity. Re-offer to me and I’ll consider. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/330 "2011-03-08T19:50:57Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Actually it probably isn’t a great deal for Ben, but I think he knows that. Good deal for anyone else. Even you Digger. I’ve got to say I don’t understand this. You’re offering to give someone -6 points and the ability to give it to someone besides you and that is supposed to be a good deal? Even if they just accepted your trade for free it’s a +6 to you but you want a 6 point item for it. So you’ll get +12 out of the deal and the person who accepts will get -12 with the ability to improve to -6 but not to win the game since they can’t give the -6 to the person in the lead. How is this a good deal? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/331 "2011-03-08T20:08:11Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’ve got to say I don’t understand this. You’re offering to give someone -6 points and the ability to give it to someone besides you and that is supposed to be a good deal? Even if they just accepted your trade for free it’s a +6 to you but you want a 6 point item for it. So you’ll get +12 out of the deal and the person who accepts will get -12 with the ability to improve to -6 but not to win the game since they can’t give the -6 to the person in the lead. How is this a good deal? Well seeing as how that isn’t the deal… ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/332 "2011-03-08T20:17:58Z")
Let me expand. The -6 is going to go to someone. Right now the only two people who it _won’t_ hit are you and me. I am giving them the opportunity to change that math if they want to. For Pede, it actually means a +6 points for him because of the box of chocolates, but for everyone else I am only asking for an item that is worth nothing (assuming they want to offer a flower) to them in exchange for some power in the game. For you I am asking for more, but I don’t really expect you to trade with me. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/333 "2011-03-08T20:21:32Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Re-offer to me and I’ll consider. NAF offer MahaundercutsPede: I offer you my copy of rule 6 and the forever yours heart in exchange for your roses and immunity from the forever yours heart. I am open to renegotiating with other items that you have if you would rather, and the offer is obviously void if Pede accepts first. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/334 "2011-03-08T20:59:24Z")
Open offer. Will publish the text of the rule of your choice to the thread in exchange for someone taking over my debt to the bank. Rule 10 excepted ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/335 "2011-03-08T21:26:36Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Open offer. Will publish the text of the rule of your choice to the thread in exchange for someone taking over my debt to the bank. Rule 10 excepted Will match. Feel free to form a consortium to distribute my debt load. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/336 "2011-03-08T21:39:48Z")
Hey Ben, how much did you pay for rule 3 again? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/337 "2011-03-09T02:36:08Z")
Wow. We’ve moved off the gold standard and into fiat money here with all the speculation. It’s the great Haggle Bubble of Oh 11 … :smack: Just doesn’t sound right. From where I sit, I just wonder what Digger will do once he does read 10. 😃 Hopefully I can say that much. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/338 "2011-03-09T02:37:52Z")
Ok. Mod Hat On My shift ends tomorrow at 9. \*\* If I am not here, the game ends at 9 regardless. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/339 "2011-03-09T16:01:03Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > NAF offer MahaundercutsPede: I offer you my copy of rule 6 and the forever yours heart in exchange for your roses and immunity from the forever yours heart. > > I am open to renegotiating with other items that you have if you would rather, and the offer is obviously void if Pede accepts first. So Maha, have you considered? I hate to just get left hanging with the game ending soon. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/340 "2011-03-09T22:34:28Z")
I haven’t had time to think about this (or any posting for that matter). My dads been in the hospital and we just found out he needs a hip replacement. I’m sorry guys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232.md?page=18)