# Haggle: St.Valentine's Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232 "2011-02-22T15:49:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/81 "2011-02-28T15:17:12Z")

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offer 2a on hold pending clarification from game mod It looks like there may have been a miscommunication, hopefully not.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/82 "2011-02-28T15:19:21Z")

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**Gad O-2: Oredigger, looks at my 3 and 16 for a look at your 1 and your Forever Yours heart.**

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/83 "2011-02-28T15:22:02Z")

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First Update :

\*\*Please Confirm. You guys were very eager to get started. Want to make sure I got this correct.

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**Scuba\_Ben** Holds:  
A copy of rules: 6,8,9,14,17.

Has Seen rules:

1 Pink Conversation Heart  
1 Pink Rose  
6 Red Conversation Hearts  
1 Vase of Water  
3 White Conversation Hearts  
2 White Roses  
**Antinor01** Holds:  
A copy of rules: 1,4,6,7,8,12.

Has Seen rules:

1 Platinum Necklace  
1 Pink Rose  
1 Gold Ring  
6 Red Conversation Hearts,  
1 Vase of Water  
1 White Conversation Heart  
2 White Roses  
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Mahaloth\*\* Holds:  
A copy of rules: 5,13,15,16,18.

Has seen rules:

1 Silver Necklace  
1 Pink Rose  
6 Red Conversation Hearts  
1 Silver Ring  
1 White Conversation Heart  
2 White Roses

**Oredigger77** Holds:  
A copy of rules: 1,2,5,9,11,19.

Has seen rules: [3,10,12,13,16,18]

1 Platinum Earring  
1 Silver Earring  
1 Forever Yours Heart  
1 Pink Conversation Heart  
1 Pink Rose  
2 Red Conversation Heart  
1 Red Rose  
1 Vase of Water  
1 White Conversation Heart

**NAF1138** Holds:  
A copy of rules: 2,4,6,7,17,20.

Has seen rules: [3,10,12,13,16,18,1,2,5,9,11,19]

1 Be Mine Heart  
1 Gold Earring  
1 Pink Conversation Heart  
1 Pink Rose  
2 Red Conversation Hearts  
1 Red Rose  
1 Vase of Water  
1 White Conversation Heart  
3 White Roses  
**Gadarene** Holds:  
a copy of rules: 3,10,12,13,16,18.

Has seen rules: [2,4,6,7,17,20,5,19]

1 Gold Necklace  
1 Pink Conversation Heart  
1 Pink Rose  
6 Red Conversation Hearts  
1 White Conversation Heart  
1 White Rose

**Pedescribe** Holds:  
A copy of rules: 10,11,14,15,19,20.

Has seen rules:

1 Box of Chocolates  
8 Pink Conversation Hearts  
1 Red Conversation Heart  
1 Platinum Ring  
1 Red Rose  
2 White Roses

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/84 "2011-02-28T15:23:24Z")

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Whoa whoa whoa…the white rose in Gad N-1 was going from **NAF** to me, not the other way around.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/85 "2011-02-28T15:24:56Z")

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…I seriously can’t believe I screwed this game up already as much as I did.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/86 "2011-02-28T15:26:00Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> **Gad Offer N-1: NAF, I’ll offer you looks at all the rules I have for looks at all the rules you have, plus one white rose**
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> (I have a rule no one else has, and it’s worth it.)

**Wasn’t sure how you parsed this.**

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/87 "2011-02-28T15:31:15Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **Wasn’t sure how you parsed this.**

I asked chrisk how to handle this. Will get back to you.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/88 "2011-02-28T15:33:22Z")

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Here’s the accepted trades I am party to:

Ben 1: NAF looks at my r8 and I look at his r7.  
Gad A-4: Gad looks at my r17 and I look at his r12.  
Ben 2a: Gad looks at my r9 and I look at his r18.  
Ben 2b: NAF looks at my r9 and I look at his r4.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/89 "2011-02-28T15:39:56Z")

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NAF2b -Maha sorry for screwing around like this. Rule 6 for rule 15 swap straight up

Mods- I parsed the trade with Gad the way you did, but would be happy to just cancel the rose action altogether since the rules have already been seen.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/90 "2011-02-28T15:40:06Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> I asked chrisk how to handle this. Will get back to you.

I mean, I was giving him a look at the one unique rule in the game…why would I be throwing in a rose on top of it?

(Let’s not talk about how one white rose is paltry compensation anyway. _sigh_)

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/91 "2011-02-28T15:41:59Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Mods- I parsed the trade with Gad the way you did, but would be happy to just cancel the rose action altogether since the rules have already been seen.

I’m sure you would. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/92 "2011-02-28T15:49:55Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> **Gad O-2: Oredigger, looks at my 3 and 16 for a look at your 1 and your Forever Yours heart.**

Sorry, I’ve already seen 16 but . . .

\*\* Digger 1: Gad I’ll give you rule #1 for a look at #3\*\*

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/93 "2011-02-28T15:54:17Z")

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**Withdraw Digger 1**

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/94 "2011-02-28T15:57:39Z")

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Sorry, about that Gada I just got your rules from our last trade. I think that I can do better.

NAF based on rule 5, 9, and 12 you know this should be about even

**Digger offer 2: NAF I’ll give you rule 1 for your Gold Earing**

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/95 "2011-02-28T16:00:07Z")

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I will not be able to get back to this game until 5p EST.

Feel free to make trades, just know that I won’t be able to fill them until then.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/96 "2011-02-28T16:04:05Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Sorry, about that Gada I just got your rules from our last trade. I think that I can do better.
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> NAF based on rule 5, 9, and 12 you know this should be about even
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> **Digger offer 2: NAF I’ll give you rule 1 for your Gold Earing**

**NAF counter 1 - It’s a risk for me at this point. Throw in your conversation heart and it’s a deal.**

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/97 "2011-02-28T16:08:53Z")

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**Oredigger** : How much for a look at rule 1 before you give it away to NAF?

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/98 "2011-02-28T16:10:09Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> **NAF counter 1 - It’s a risk for me at this point. Throw in your conversation heart and it’s a deal.**

**Accept NAF counter 1 provided the heart is not used against me or I get all of your roses**

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/99 "2011-02-28T16:12:23Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> **Oredigger** : How much for a look at rule 1 before you give it away to NAF?

**Digger offer 3: I’ll trade you a look at 1 for a look at your 8 and 14**

Obviously only good until NAF accepts

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/100 "2011-02-28T16:15:21Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> **Accept NAF counter 1 provided the heart is not used against me or I get all of your roses**

accept not to use heart against you.

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