# Haggle: St.Valentine's Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232 "2011-02-22T15:49:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/101 "2011-02-28T16:22:07Z")

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I’m leaving for a few hours.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/102 "2011-02-28T16:27:47Z")

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I already told **NAF** this via PM, and don’t want him to have an informational advantage (more than he already does, that is), so: I’m stepping away from the game for at least one or two real-time days, because I’m not having fun at all. Feel free to make me offers (I’m willing to share rule 3 with folks for the right price), but I probably won’t respond for a while, and I won’t be making any more offers of my own right now.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/103 "2011-02-28T16:31:33Z")

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**Digger Offer 4: Scuba I’ll trade you a look at 2 for a look at you 8 or 14**

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/104 "2011-02-28T16:34:22Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> **Digger offer 3: I’ll trade you a look at 1 for a look at your 8 and 14**
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> Obviously only good until NAF accepts

Ben #6 counter Digger #3: Throw in an additional rule of your choice that I haven’t seen. (Peeks at your 1 + other rule for my 8 and 14.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> **Digger Offer 4: Scuba I’ll trade you a look at 2 for a look at you 8 or 14**

Accept Digger 4, have a look at rule 8.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/105 "2011-02-28T16:39:04Z")

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**Digger offer 5: Pede I’ll trade you looks at all of my rules for looks at all of yours**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/106 "2011-02-28T16:42:46Z")

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**I’ve seen rule 12, Meeko.**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/107 "2011-02-28T16:45:15Z")

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**Mahaloth Offer 1: Oredigger, Looks at 15 and 16 for looks at 1 and 2**

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/108 "2011-02-28T16:57:22Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> **Mahaloth Offer 1: Oredigger, Looks at 15 and 16 for looks at 1 and 2**

**Digger counter 2: I trade you a look at 2 for a look at 16**

I don’t have 1 any more or I’d accept.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/109 "2011-02-28T17:18:08Z")

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Cancel Ben 6 as I didn’t see NAF accepting.  
Ben #7, NAF1138 I’ll give you a look at a rule of your choice for a look at rule 1.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/110 "2011-02-28T17:19:59Z")

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**I accept Digger counter 2**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/111 "2011-02-28T18:56:18Z")

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Accept Ben offer. Will show rule 1 for a look at your rule 14

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/112 "2011-02-28T19:06:34Z")

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] Accept Ben offer 7. Will show rule 1 for a look at your rule 14

I hate coding by hand on my phone.

Gad, like I said in pm I dont want you to stop playing, but if you need to back off for a bit to cool off that’s fine. I’ll take the offer as you intended it if it helps. Also I don’t think you are in as bad shape as you think you are, and its still very early. Everyone screws themselves a bit in this game at some point. That’s part of the fun. It happens to everyone. Promise.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/113 "2011-02-28T20:20:50Z")

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I’m not sure what happened but i agree with NAF there is no way to know if you’re screwed yet or not. Without knowing all of the rules or at least being able to guess at them it’s easy to screw over people or think you are and end up getting screwed.

Think of it this way even if you did screw over yourself, which I doubt, then take revenge and screw over someone else even if you can’t win the game. Look back at Meeko screwing me the last time we played he wasn’t trying for the victory just to screw me, its fun.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/114 "2011-02-28T22:25:15Z")

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Ok guys. I’m back.

**Let me get caught up.**

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/115 "2011-02-28T22:29:20Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Everyone screws themselves a bit in this game at some point. That’s part of the fun. It happens to everyone. Promise.

I will second this. And it goes double for the Mods.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/116 "2011-02-28T22:33:16Z")

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Hi, Meeko, I’m around, and I’m somewhat caught up already.

> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Accept all open offers

Speaking on my own behalf - please, please, please, nobody do this from here on. It puts the burden on your fellow Hagglers and on the moderators to figure out which offers are open to you, not to mention working out if any of them were ambiguous. Do the legwork yourself, figure out which offers you can accept, and accept them specifically.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/117 "2011-02-28T22:37:07Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Speaking on my own behalf - please, please, please, nobody do this from here on. It puts the burden on your fellow Hagglers and on the moderators to figure out which offers are open to you, not to mention working out if any of them were ambiguous. Do the legwork yourself, figure out which offers you can accept, and accept them specifically.

That’s why I went back and fixed my accept. It’s a post or two further down in green.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/118 "2011-02-28T22:42:33Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> That’s why I went back and fixed my accept. It’s a post or two further down in green.

Yes, thank you, I did notice that, after I’d already written the plea, so I thought that it could stand on its own, to make sure nobody else tried to follow your example. 😉

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/119 "2011-02-28T22:43:17Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Yes, thank you, I did notice that, after I’d already written the plea, so I thought that it could stand on its own, to make sure nobody else tried to follow your example. 😉

Ok. I’m on too.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-st-valentines-day/572232/120 "2011-02-28T22:43:38Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Yes, thank you, I did notice that, after I’d already written the plea, so I thought that it could stand on its own, to make sure nobody else tried to follow your example. 😉

Fair, I realized after I hit post that my response sounded snarky. No snark intended, I just wanted you to know I new better and I am actually sorry.

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