# Haggle: The Dragon's hoard \[closed\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068 "2008-04-27T10:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/41 "2008-05-05T22:02:52Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] Santo # 3 - ArizonaTeach, I’ll trade you a COPY of 11 for a COPY of rule 3. [/QUOTE] I do not own either. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/42 "2008-05-05T22:02:54Z")
Sorry, missed the line about not being able to copy. Look: You get to see the rule, but you can’t trade the info from it first hand. Trade: You no longer have the scroll. Copy: I make my own copy of your rule, which I can now offer a look to others. Not permitted. Sorry, didn’t realize we were operating under a no editing clause. All my edits were formatting stuff. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/43 "2008-05-05T22:03:12Z")
[QUOTE=sinjin] Ok I’m a bit confused here. Chrisk said copying scrolls (rules) is against the rules. Can someone in little words explain to me the difference between copying, trading and offering a look? [/QUOTE] If I have the scroll to start with and you’re the other party in the trade… If I trade it to you, you end up with the scroll and I don’t. If I let you look at it, I end up with the scroll and you don’t. If copying were allowed and we copy it, we both end up with the scroll. But either way, we both end up knowing what’s on it. And having the scroll is important because it gives you more leverage to trade with the info - if you don’t have the scroll and try to trade for it, people might pay less because they can’t be sure they’re getting valid info. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/44 "2008-05-05T22:03:20Z")
Digger #2: MHaye I’ll trade you 17 copper pieces for your black wand ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/45 "2008-05-05T22:04:34Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] Sorry, missed the line about not being able to copy. Look: You get to see the rule, but you can’t trade the info from it first hand. Trade: You no longer have the scroll. Copy: I make my own copy of your rule, which I can now offer a look to others. Not permitted. Sorry, didn’t realize we were operating under a no editing clause. All my edits were formatting stuff. [/QUOTE] That’s fine. And note that you ‘can’ trade with non first hand info in this game, but because it’s not necessarily to send out the rule correctly, it’s not necessarily as worthwhile for the purchaser. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/46 "2008-05-05T22:06:10Z")
Digger #3: Antinor01 I’ll trade you a look at Rule # 14, 15 and 18 for a look at 1, 7 and 19 ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/47 "2008-05-05T22:06:11Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] I do not own either. [/QUOTE] Santo # 6 - ArizonaTeach, I’ll trade you looks at 2,3,and 6 for 20,21and22. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/48 "2008-05-05T22:06:35Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] **ArizonaTeach** #1 - Open Trade: I will trade 3 gold for 1 potion. [/QUOTE] Meeko #3 - ArizonaTeach - I can do better than that. Will you take 9 copper, and 1 gold for a red potion? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/49 "2008-05-05T22:08:25Z")
How do we talk to other players? Like if we want to “ally”? I assume we do that publically? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/50 "2008-05-05T22:08:28Z")
Digger #4: ArizonaTeach I’ll trade you a look at 15, 17, and 18 for a look at 20, 21, and 22 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/51 "2008-05-05T22:08:41Z")
I withdraw Meeko 1 and Meeko 2. (The Two copy rules. Sorry, I was doing what everyone else was doing.) ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/52 "2008-05-05T22:10:40Z")
Digger #5: Meeko I’ll trade you a look at 15, 17 and 18 for a look at 9, 10 and 13 ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/53 "2008-05-05T22:11:02Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Meeko #3 - ArizonaTeach - I can do better than that. Will you take 9 copper, and 1 gold for a red potion? [/QUOTE] ArizonaTeach Counteroffer #2: I will give **Meeko** 9 copper and 1 gold for 1 red potion and a look at any rule I don’t own. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/54 "2008-05-05T22:12:10Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] Digger #4: ArizonaTeach I’ll trade you a look at 15, 17, and 18 for a look at 20, 21, and 22 [/QUOTE] I cannot accept a straight across trade for those three rules, no. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/55 "2008-05-05T22:12:18Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] How do we talk to other players? Like if we want to “ally”? I assume we do that publically? [/QUOTE] Yep, any conferring and scheming is done openly. Actually, that’s not quite true - there’s a loophole that might allow you to PM a confederate legally, but that’s all I’ll say about it now. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/56 "2008-05-05T22:13:27Z")
**Antinor01** Holds scrolls: 1, 7, 11, 17, 19 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion **ArizonaTeach** Holds scrolls: 7, 19, 20, 21, 22 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 10 Copper pieces, 6 Electrum pieces, 3 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite, 1 Gray wand **Meeko** Holds scrolls: 5, 9, 10, 13, 14 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 5 Copper pieces, 5 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 10 Silver pieces, 1 Ruby gem, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Blue potion, 1 Red potion **MHaye** Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand **Oredigger77** Holds scrolls: 5, 14, 15, 17, 18 Has seen scrolls: 12 And holds these treasures: 17 Copper pieces, 5 Platinum Pieces, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian **phi2dao** Holds scrolls: 8, 9, 20, 21, 22 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 10 Gold pieces, 15 Silver pieces, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand **Santo Rugger** Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 6, 12, 13 Has seen scrolls: 18 And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion **sinjin** Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 4, 16, 18 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 25 Copper pieces, 10 Electrum pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand **Thing Fish** Holds scrolls: 4, 10, 12, 15, 16 Has seen scrolls: And holds these treasures: 7 Copper pieces, 25 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/57 "2008-05-05T22:14:07Z")
ArizonaTeach #3 - MHaye, I will trade a look at your Rule#1 for my Rule#19, as . ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/58 "2008-05-05T22:17:18Z")
Withdraw ArizonaTeach #3. Clarification follows. ArizonaTeach #4 - MHaye, I will trade a look at your Rule#1 for a look at my Rule#19. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/59 "2008-05-05T22:18:31Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] I cannot accept a straight across trade for those three rules, no. [/QUOTE] Digger counteroffer #1: Ok well lets make this complicated. I’ll give you a break and we can go 1 Silver earring with carnelian for 3 platinums and a look at one of those three rules ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/60 "2008-05-05T22:24:13Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] Digger counteroffer #1: Ok well lets make this complicated. I’ll give you a break and we can go 1 Silver earring with carnelian for 3 platinums and a look at one of those three rules [/QUOTE] Moderator kibbitzing: What, you’re going to break up the set? 🙂 (Note, comments like this are made only for color value or to stir up the pot a little and seldom betray anything about the rules - but you never know.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=4)