# Haggle: The Dragon's hoard \[closed\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068 "2008-04-27T10:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/581 "2008-05-10T02:51:25Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Well, there is interest, and then there is INTEREST. What if I add 2 gold to the offer then? [/QUOTE] Hmm. I’ll say it this way, one will give you direct benefit and the other will give you insight. If you think that is worth 2 gold, I’ll accept. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/582 "2008-05-10T02:51:30Z")
Withdraw Meeko S18 Meeko Offer S19 — Antinor Looks at your 11 and 19 for looks at my 9 and 13 and 2 of my gold ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/583 "2008-05-10T02:53:34Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Withdraw Meeko S18 Meeko Offer S19 — Antinor Looks at your 11 and 19 for looks at my 9 and 13 and 2 of my gold [/QUOTE] Accepted And just to be fair, if you feel the trade was unbalanced, I will return 1 of your gold. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/584 "2008-05-10T03:33:28Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] Arizona, do we have a deal over the ring? [/QUOTE] (golem) It has my precious, it has, my PRECIOUS!!! (golem) ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/585 "2008-05-10T03:39:25Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] (golem) It has my precious, it has, my PRECIOUS!!! (golem) [/QUOTE] I’ve been after that damn thing since post 67. One ring to rule them all!!! ::cough:: ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/586 "2008-05-10T03:50:03Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] Arizona, do we have a deal over the ring? [/QUOTE] I’ve got to look everything over. Like I said earlier, **chrisk** sent us incorrect rules that have been affecting our play. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/587 "2008-05-10T03:58:37Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] I’ve got to look everything over. Like I said earlier, **chrisk** sent us incorrect rules that have been affecting our play. [/QUOTE] I must admit I’m slightly confused now. Unless my copy of scroll 17 is wrong, I don’t see any trades you’ve made that would be an issue. Of ocurse, you have other information I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/588 "2008-05-10T03:58:57Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] I’ve got to look everything over. Like I said earlier, **chrisk** sent us incorrect rules that have been affecting our play. [/QUOTE] I had to ask for clarification on 10 myself. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/589 "2008-05-10T04:43:44Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] I had to ask for clarification on 10 myself. [/QUOTE] Oh, I wish it was a clarification issue. No, we were intentionally given an incorrect rule. There’s no way I can explain it without sounding petulant, unfortunately… **chrisk** had his reasons, and it’s his game, so I don’t begrudge him those reasons. Besides, we \*\*could \*\* have realized it if we were paying closer attention - actually, **I** should have realized it. **Phi** never did see the real rules. Needless to say…it’s utterly screwed us. All trades off the table. At this point, I won’t be making any more trades. **phi** , you should if you think of something. I’m more than likely going to sign over the entire load to you to guarantee your win, since this is on my head. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/590 "2008-05-10T05:26:11Z")
I’ll need some clarification from Chrisk on what exactly is going on here. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/591 "2008-05-10T10:12:04Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] I’ll need some clarification from Chrisk on what exactly is going on here. [/QUOTE] It was a little surprise I put into an unusual situation. Because the greatest advantage **phi/Teach** had in their merger seemed to be the combining of secondhand rule info, rules that they had seen and didn’t own, I introduced two slight innacuracies when I gave them their rule update for the team-up. One rule that **ArizonaTeach** had seen and **phi2dao** hadn’t was mis-stated, and vice versa - the sort of mistakes that might reasonably have happened if two confederates where whispering to each other and trying not to be overheard. Because the same PM was sent to both participants in the merge, if the players had been paying a lot of attention to the rules that they had already seen in that batch, they should each have spotted something was up, probably pm-ed me back about the ‘mistake’, and then found a way to signal their partner about the required correction in thread, like **Arizona** did in post 568. Unfortunately, neither of them seemed to clue in so quickly, and I realized that **Arizona** was planning strategy based around both of the misstated rules, completely forgetting the version he had seen previously, so I sent another PM out to alert them to the situation. Very sorry if things got out of hand, and I’d like to reassure all players that PMs from conventional trades would NEVER be tampered with in that fashion. I understand **Arizona’s** frustration and desire to reassess before continuing the game. I don’t think that the partnership is in that bad a position, though, and would hope that the two of you continue active play through the week. And while I’m not trying to be too difficult here, ‘signing the load over to’ one partner is something that I’d take issue with. The partnership of **phi/Teach** is 50-50, it was specified as that when you partnered, and that’s a term that is unchangeable and insoluble. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/592 "2008-05-10T10:13:14Z")
**Antinor01** Holds scrolls: 5, 7, 11, 17, 19 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 9, 13, 14, 18, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Gold pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion **Meeko** Holds scrolls: 1, 9, 10, 13, 14 Has seen scrolls: 2, 3, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 36 Copper pieces, 1 Electrum piece, 3 Platinum Pieces, 10 Silver pieces, 1 Ruby gem, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite Agreed NEVER reveal, publically or privately, rule 20 **MHaye** Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11 Has seen scrolls: 5, 7, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22 And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand **Oredigger77** Holds scrolls: 14, 15, 17, 18, 22 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 19 And holds these treasures: 5 Copper pieces, 5 Platinum Pieces, 8 Silver pieces, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Gray wand **phi/Teach** Holds scrolls: 7, 8, 9, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 22 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 5 Electrum pieces, 12 Gold pieces, 27 Silver pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Blue potion, 1 Red potion, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand 50-50 partnership between **phi2dao** and **ArizonaTeach** **Santo Rugger** Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 6, 12, 13 Has seen scrolls: 8, 18 And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion **sinjin** Holds scrolls: 2, 4, 16, 16 Has seen scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 10 Electrum pieces, 4 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand **Thing Fish** Holds scrolls: 3, 4, 5, 10, 12, 15, 18 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 21 And holds these treasures: 21 Copper pieces, 9 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/593 "2008-05-10T12:20:43Z")
I notice that Phi/Teach has not seen 12. While I have 12 second hand, I wonder how bad Phi/Teach wants it. Those that hold 12, think long and hard about selling looks for Phi/Teach. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/594 "2008-05-10T12:27:49Z")
Thing Fish Meeko Offer S20 Hey man, Sorry for spilling the beans on 3. I will make it up to you: Meeko Offer S 20 Thing Fish, Your Scroll 3 for 2 of my Silver? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/595 "2008-05-10T12:31:06Z")
Mhaye I’m Open for some trades. You up for the same? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/596 "2008-05-10T12:35:05Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] Accepted And just to be fair, if you feel the trade was unbalanced, I will return 1 of your gold. [/QUOTE] Hey Ant. I want to wait till I saw the rules before I evaluated this offer. You have seen my rules in this related trade now. The rules you have are very interesting, and I think that the deal is fair as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/597 "2008-05-10T12:41:28Z")
Meeko Offer S 21 ---- M haye, I will give second hand info on 12 for 1 copper. Once you read it, I am open for a trade for the first item type mentioned in that rule. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/598 "2008-05-10T12:43:47Z")
Phi Teach, Are you still on the market to trade for actual scrolls? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/599 "2008-05-10T14:28:45Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Meeko Offer S 21 ---- M haye, I will give second hand info on 12 for 1 copper. Once you read it, I am open for a trade for the first item type mentioned in that rule. [/QUOTE] I can’t accept this trade as I have no copper to pay you with. Let me think about alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/600 "2008-05-10T15:52:12Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] I can’t accept this trade as I have no copper to pay you with. Let me think about alternatives. [/QUOTE] So true. I didn’t even catch that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=31)