# Haggle: The Dragon's hoard \[closed\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068 "2008-04-27T10:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/741 "2008-05-14T16:51:33Z")
I have received hearsay on 12 and sent PMs on 7, so that deal is now complete, as far as I know. Now I need to refresh my memory on S31 and evaluate my position in the light of new knowledge. And Meeko, if you still need a sight of 6 remember I have the scroll. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/742 "2008-05-14T17:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Meeko offer S 31 Mhaye: My Ruby Gem for Your Black Wand, Scrolls 6 and 8, and a Platnium. [/QUOTE] I know how much my stock is worth now (assuming you’ve been honest), and I know how much I would reduce my stock by taking this trade. But I don’t know how much I would gain. Rejected. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/743 "2008-05-14T17:11:07Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] I know how much my stock is worth now (assuming you’ve been honest), and I know how much I would reduce my stock by taking this trade. But I don’t know how much I would gain. Rejected. [/QUOTE] I told you the truth of 12. Are you sure you understand what it means? You would REDUCE your stock by making this trade?! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/744 "2008-05-14T17:26:28Z")
Meeko Offer S 41 Mhaye – Free hearsay on 4. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/745 "2008-05-14T18:31:02Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] I told you the truth of 12. Are you sure you understand what it means? You would REDUCE your stock by making this trade?! :dubious: [/QUOTE] Th See by trading away the wand, some of the things I hold would gain value and some would lose value. Overall, considering the value of my stock without counting the ruby I would receive, I would lose a significant amount. So the question is, does the value of the ruby equal or exceed the drop in value of my stock? To answer that question, I need to know the base value of a precious gem. I don’t know that information. It’s possible that the value of a precious gem will more than compensate for the net drop. If I can learn what the values is then I’ll reconsider. Added after preview : [pcolor=green]accept Meeko S41[/color] - assuming we can do that. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/746 "2008-05-14T18:33:15Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] Added after preview : accept Meeko S41 - assuming we can do that. [/QUOTE] Shabby editing is what happens when you’re industriously typing away and your fiancee calls. You sort of lose track of the post after a while. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/747 "2008-05-14T18:55:26Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] accept Meeko S41 - assuming we can do that. [/QUOTE] Done. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/748 "2008-05-14T18:59:38Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] Very close to a good deal how about Digger counter #7: Scroll 6 for 2 silver and 1 copper that way we both come out ahead 1 copper [/QUOTE] This makes my 39 to Santo invalid, correct? Withdraw S 39 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/749 "2008-05-14T19:03:54Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] It’s possible that the value of a precious gem will more than compensate for the net drop. If I can learn what the values is then I’ll reconsider. [/QUOTE] And that’s why I offered hearsay of 4 for free. If it werent for the petty gamesmanship here, I think we would get on a lot better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/750 "2008-05-14T19:09:03Z")
After you see 4 Mhaye, lets try this again. Meeko S 42 Mhaye: My Ruby Gem for Your Black Wand, Scrolls 6 and 8. Yes. I will drop off a Plat. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/751 "2008-05-14T19:17:42Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] And that’s why I offered hearsay of 4 for free. If it werent for the petty gamesmanship here, I think we would get on a lot better. 🙂 [/QUOTE] You know I just ran the numbers based on the incorrect update above and you are in the lead so I’m thinking that its good for the rest of us that your not better off. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/752 "2008-05-14T19:18:56Z")
After I see 6, I think I might be open to selling some of my scrolls. I will keep you all posted. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/753 "2008-05-14T19:21:48Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] You know I just ran the numbers based on the incorrect update above and you are in the lead so I’m thinking that its good for the rest of us that your not better off. 😃 [/QUOTE] Heh. But then, that means that you guys wouldn’t play with me then. I wouldn’t want that. I can’t wait to see if we are going to talk about the entire game, after we get on the other side of it. (Once it’s over). :eek: ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/754 "2008-05-14T19:39:34Z")
Meeko. I have now read 4 thanks. According to my numbers, I lose more than I gain by accepting offer S31, so my original rejection stands. I’ll think about S42; retaining the platinum piece might make the deal profitable for me. Yes, I paraphrased rule 7, but the number I gave you was the correct one. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/755 "2008-05-14T19:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] Meeko. I’ll think about S42; retaining the platinum piece might make the deal profitable for me. Yes, I paraphrased rule 7, but the number I gave you was the correct one. [/QUOTE] Knowing that you are doing the math, I re-evaluated the offer. Hence 42. Between the two secondhand 7s that I have, I have two versions. Yours looked the most … edited shall we say. Regardless, I think I have enough between the both 7s to work out the original. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/756 "2008-05-14T21:40:26Z")
I have a policy against free hearsay offers, and rejected an offer of that sort earlier in the game, but since it happened when I wasn’t paying that much attention, I’m not inclined to call a foul on it. Corrected update for **Meeko** ’s copper: **Antinor01** Holds scrolls: 5, 7, 11, 17, 19 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 9, 13, 14, 18, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Gold pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion **Meeko** Holds scrolls: 1, 3, 9, 10, 13, 14 Has seen scrolls: 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 35 Copper pieces, 1 Electrum piece, 3 Platinum Pieces, 3 Silver pieces, 1 Ruby gem, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite Agreed NEVER reveal, publically or privately, rule 20. Has been told rule 7 secondhand by **Oredigger77** **MHaye** Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11 Has seen scrolls: 5, 7, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22 And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand **Oredigger77** Holds scrolls: 6, 14, 15, 17 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 18, 19, 22 And holds these treasures: 6 Copper pieces, 5 Platinum Pieces, 8 Silver pieces, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Gray wand **phi/Teach** Holds scrolls: 7, 8, 9, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 22 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 5 Electrum pieces, 12 Gold pieces, 27 Silver pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Blue potion, 1 Red potion, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand 50-50 partnership between **phi2dao** and **ArizonaTeach**. Either player has full authority to make trades **Santo Rugger** Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 12, 13, 18, 22 Has seen scrolls: 6, 8 And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion **sinjin** Holds scrolls: 2, 4, 16, 16 Has seen scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 10 Electrum pieces, 4 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand **Thing Fish** Holds scrolls: 4, 5, 10, 12, 15, 18 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 21 And holds these treasures: 21 Copper pieces, 16 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/757 "2008-05-14T22:04:50Z")
Chrisk I think you forgot the deal in 729 between me a Meeko ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/758 "2008-05-14T22:10:58Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Knowing that you are doing the math, I re-evaluated the offer. Hence 42. Between the two secondhand 7s that I have, I have two versions. Yours looked the most … edited shall we say. Regardless, I think I have enough between the both 7s to work out the original. [/QUOTE] I have an actual copy of rule 7 if you want to trade for it. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/759 "2008-05-14T22:20:19Z")
Digger offer #25: Meeko one last try 2 plat for the silver bracelet You have full knowedge of its value and know I’m giving you more then it’s worth to you. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/760 "2008-05-14T23:07:33Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] Chrisk I think you forgot the deal in 729 between me a Meeko [/QUOTE] Yeah, thanks, got it now. **Antinor01** Holds scrolls: 5, 7, 11, 17, 19 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 9, 13, 14, 18, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Gold pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion **Meeko** Holds scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14 Has seen scrolls: 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 And holds these treasures: 34 Copper pieces, 1 Electrum piece, 3 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Ruby gem, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite Agreed NEVER reveal, publically or privately, rule 20. Has been told rule 7 secondhand by **Oredigger77** , and seperately by **MHaye** **MHaye** Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11 Has seen scrolls: 5, 7, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22 And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand Has been told rule 12 secondhand by **Meeko** , and also _controversially_ rule 4 for free **Oredigger77** Holds scrolls: 14, 15, 17 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 18, 19, 22 And holds these treasures: 7 Copper pieces, 5 Platinum Pieces, 10 Silver pieces, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Gray wand **phi/Teach** Holds scrolls: 7, 8, 9, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 22 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 5 Electrum pieces, 12 Gold pieces, 27 Silver pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Blue potion, 1 Red potion, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand 50-50 partnership between **phi2dao** and **ArizonaTeach**. Either player has full authority to make trades **Santo Rugger** Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 12, 13, 18, 22 Has seen scrolls: 6, 8 And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion **sinjin** Holds scrolls: 2, 4, 16, 16 Has seen scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 10 Electrum pieces, 4 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand **Thing Fish** Holds scrolls: 4, 5, 10, 12, 15, 18 Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 21 And holds these treasures: 21 Copper pieces, 16 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068.md?page=39)