# Haggle: The Dragon's hoard \[closed\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068 "2008-04-27T10:38:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/781 "2008-05-15T19:45:55Z")

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Sure why don’t we trade hearsay for hearsay I’m curious and don’t want to wait untill tonight to find out.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/782 "2008-05-15T19:53:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Sure why don’t we trade hearsay for hearsay I’m curious and don’t want to wait untill tonight to find out.  
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No problem. Do you have any info that might be of use to me? I’m way behind in the knowledge arena.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/783 "2008-05-15T19:53:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
I know I was going to take rule 3 and subtract 3 words that is the same thing, right?  
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On rule 3? I think you can leave rule 3 as is, and you would be closer to rule 0 than not.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/784 "2008-05-15T19:54:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
No problem. Do you have any info that might be of use to me? I’m way behind in the knowledge arena.  
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I’m selling some scrolls.

All Open offers:

Meeko Offer S 46  
Selling Scroll 1 for 1 Silver

Meeko Offer S 47  
Selling Scroll 10 for 1 Silver

Meeko Offer S 48  
Selling Scroll 13 for 1 Silver

Meeko Offer S 49  
Selling Scroll 14 for 1 Silver

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/785 "2008-05-15T20:27:16Z")

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Digger offer #25: I’ll trade a look at 15 for any knowledge about potions

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/786 "2008-05-15T20:28:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Meeko]  
Meeko Offer S 49  
Selling Scroll 14 for 1 Silver  
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Digger offer #26: I’ll sell scroll 14 for 1 copper 😃

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/787 "2008-05-15T20:34:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Digger offer #25: I’ll trade a look at 15 for any knowledge about potions  
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Accepted. With the understanding that my shared knowledge is hearsay.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/788 "2008-05-15T20:44:50Z")

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Just PM over the hearsay to me and Chrisk

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/789 "2008-05-15T20:48:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Digger offer #26: I’ll sell scroll 14 for 1 copper 😃  
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Meeko Offer S 51

Selling my Scroll 1,10,13 and 14 for 5 of your Copper  
Acceptance of this Offer Withdraws all other of my offers selling these scrolls. (Obviously)

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/790 "2008-05-15T20:52:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Just PM over the hearsay to me and Chrisk  
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sent

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/791 "2008-05-15T21:01:51Z")

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Antinor01 - wow there has got to be more to that rule especially since you are still holding on to your potion.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/792 "2008-05-15T21:03:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Antinor01 - wow there has got to be more to that rule.  
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It seems that Rule 20 tells more. I nearly got that rule in a trade, but alas it didn’t come to fruition.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/793 "2008-05-15T21:08:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Antinor01 - wow there has got to be more to that rule especially since you are still holding on to your potion.  
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Meeko applies even more duct tape to his mouth.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/794 "2008-05-15T21:09:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Antinor01 - wow there has got to be more to that rule especially since you are still holding on to your potion.  
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What number? Out of curiosity?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/795 "2008-05-15T21:11:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Antinor01 - wow there has got to be more to that rule especially since you are still holding on to your potion.  
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I don’t know the rest of the info, namely rule 20. (Yes Meeko, we see you over there. 😉 )

I won’t say a lot more except that if you read the introductory rules given by Chrisk, I have a plan.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/796 "2008-05-15T21:15:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
I don’t know the rest of the info, namely rule 20. (Yes Meeko, we see you over there. 😉 )

I won’t say a lot more except that if you read the introductory rules given by Chrisk, I have a plan.  
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The tape is more or less equivalent to

“If I could say something right now, I would. But I cant.”

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A plan? You should get started on it then. :::meeko goes and looks at the starting post again:::

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/797 "2008-05-15T21:33:17Z")

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Hey everybody. Sorry I was so absent today, work kept me busy, and I yet again forgot to take the database on my flash drive.

Three and a half hours to go. Rules PM-ed, and as soon as I update for the latest bit of hearsay, I’ll post an update.

Since **Meeko** ’s PM to **MHaye** yesterday was unauthorized, and contained some information that was not strictly rule-based, I have decided to release part of it under the Haggle freedom of information act, as follows:

From: **Meeko**  
To: **MHaye, chrisk**  
Subject: Secondhand rule 4 – From S 41 (or whatever it was)

* * *

1. 
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Oh, and MHaye, I am going to call a spade a spade here. Your Second Hand rule 7 was more than likely not how you got it. I’m not saying you are lying, but it doesn’t match chrisk’s syntax.

I don’t have to worry about that, both 12 and 4 are how I got them.

Perhaps 7 is something more like

1. 
* * *

But. In any case, I really wanted 31 to go through.

If we can still do my Ruby for your Wand, scroll 6 and 8 and the Plat, let me know.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/798 "2008-05-15T21:37:57Z")

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**Antinor01**  
Holds scrolls: 5, 7, 11, 17, 19  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 9, 13, 14, 15, 18, 21, 22  
And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Gold pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion

**Meeko**  
Holds scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14  
Has seen scrolls: 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22  
And holds these treasures: 34 Copper pieces, 1 Electrum piece, 5 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Ruby gem  
Agreed NEVER reveal, publically or privately, rule 20. Has been told rule 7 secondhand by **Oredigger77** , and seperately by **MHaye**

**MHaye**  
Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11  
Has seen scrolls: 5, 7, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22  
And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand  
Has been told rule 12 secondhand by **Meeko** , and also _controversially_ rule 4 for free

**Oredigger77**  
Holds scrolls: 14, 15, 17  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 18, 19, 22  
And holds these treasures: 7 Copper pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 10 Silver pieces, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Gray wand  
Has been told rule 20 secondhand by **Antinor01**

**phi/Teach**  
Holds scrolls: 7, 8, 9, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 22  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 14, 17, 18  
And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 5 Electrum pieces, 12 Gold pieces, 27 Silver pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Blue potion, 1 Red potion, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand  
50-50 partnership between **phi2dao** and **ArizonaTeach**. Either player has full authority to make trades

**Santo Rugger**  
Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 12, 13, 18, 22  
Has seen scrolls: 6, 8  
And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion

**sinjin**  
Holds scrolls: 2, 4, 16, 16  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 3, 6, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19  
And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 10 Electrum pieces, 4 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 1 Silver piece, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand

**Thing Fish**  
Holds scrolls: 4, 5, 10, 12, 15, 18  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 21  
And holds these treasures: 21 Copper pieces, 16 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/799 "2008-05-15T21:43:16Z")

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MHaye, In spite of the Haggle Freedom of Information act, the deal has still survived.

My ruby for your wand, scroll 6 and 8 is still doable. (I think its Offer S 43 now.)

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/800 "2008-05-15T21:47:49Z")

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Well I didn’t see anything in the starting post but then I don’t have a potion so it really doesn’t affect me. But while I was back there I used the rules i know except for the new knowledge about potions to calculate our starting value and for some reason I get Mhaye way ahead of the rest of us by like 25 points but he also hasn’t change he value. The winner of the best trades looks to be Sinjin who increased 43 points during the game with Meeko in second with 28 and me in third with 14.

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