# Haggle: The Dragon's hoard \[closed\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068 "2008-04-27T10:38:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/161 "2008-05-06T21:02:08Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
MHaye # 4 - Meeko, trade Rule 2 for Rule 9.

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Not trading 9 currently.

(Does this need to be a particular color?)

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/162 "2008-05-06T21:02:52Z")

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Chrisk: I would like to give ArizonaTeach a good faith tidbit of my information about his grey wand so he relizes the _value_ of my information. As I understand it I send a pm to you and you forward it to him since I don’t have the scroll in my possesion. Can we do this?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/163 "2008-05-06T21:04:04Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
I already have a look at your #14 coming to me from our previous trade…but anyway, at this point, I can’t show #22…sorry!  
[/QUOTE]

Understandable.

I think I have done enough for this round of trading.

ArizonaTeach, lets talk some trades after an update then, ok ?

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/164 "2008-05-06T21:11:53Z")

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[QUOTE=sinjin]  
Chrisk: I would like to give ArizonaTeach a good faith tidbit of my information about his grey wand so he relizes the _value_ of my information. As I understand it I send a pm to you and you forward it to him since I don’t have the scroll in my possesion. Can we do this?  
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Before you start giving stuff out for free I already traded him rule 17. Just being helpful on the other hand if you want to do me a good deed in return . . .

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/165 "2008-05-06T21:13:20Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
Swear to God, if you’ve given me a red herring rule…! 😛  
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I would never be less the genuine in any of my trades. But if you want to trade for my knowledge of rule 3 its going to cost you. 😃

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/166 "2008-05-06T21:14:58Z")

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Meeko : Ok.

[color]MHaye # 6 : ph2dao - a view of your Scroll 20 for a view of my scroll 11.

MHaye # 7 : Santo Rugger : Scroll 1 for Scroll 3.[/color]

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/167 "2008-05-06T21:16:25Z")

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Reposted offer in previous post, this time in glorious technicolour.

[QUOTE=MHaye]  
MHaye # 6 : ph2dao - a view of your Scroll 20 for a view of my scroll 11.

MHaye # 7 : Santo Rugger : Scroll 1 for Scroll 3.  
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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/168 "2008-05-06T21:37:12Z")

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sinjin #3: ArizonaTeach I will tell you all you _need to know_ about scroll #3 for 1 Copper.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/169 "2008-05-06T21:55:36Z")

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**Antinor01**  
Holds scrolls: 5, 7, 11, 17, 19  
Has seen scrolls: 1  
And holds these treasures: 24 Copper pieces, 15 Electrum pieces, 2 Garnet gems, 1 Copper bracelet with peridot, 1 Platinum necklace with agate, 1 Green potion

**ArizonaTeach**  
Holds scrolls: 7, 19, 20, 21, 22  
Has seen scrolls: 1, 6, 8, 14, 17, 18  
And holds these treasures: 1 Copper piece, 6 Electrum pieces, 2 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 1 Agate gem, 1 Zircon gem, 1 Silver bracelet with tanzanite, 1 Red potion, 1 Gray wand

**Meeko**  
Holds scrolls: 1, 9, 10, 13, 14  
Has seen scrolls: 5, 8, 17, 18  
And holds these treasures: 14 Copper pieces, 6 Gold pieces, 4 Platinum Pieces, 10 Silver pieces, 1 Ruby gem, 1 Silver necklace with lapis, 1 Blue potion

**MHaye**  
Holds scrolls: 1, 2, 6, 8, 11  
Has seen scrolls: 7, 13, 14, 18, 19  
And holds these treasures: 7 Gold pieces, 3 Platinum Pieces, 5 Silver pieces, 1 Obsidian gem, 1 Peridot gem, 1 Topaz gem, 1 Electrum neclace with zircon, 1 Black wand

**Oredigger77**  
Holds scrolls: 14, 15, 17, 18  
Has seen scrolls: 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 12, 13  
And holds these treasures: 17 Copper pieces, 5 Platinum Pieces, 8 Silver pieces, 1 Gold bracelet with citrine, 1 Gold earring with emerald, 2 Silver earrings with carnelian

**phi2dao**  
Holds scrolls: 8, 9, 20, 21, 22  
Has seen scrolls: 7  
And holds these treasures: 10 Gold pieces, 15 Silver pieces, 1 Electrum bracelet with malachite, 1 Platinum ring with ruby, 1 Yellow potion, 1 Gray wand

**Santo Rugger**  
Holds scrolls: 2, 3, 6, 12, 13  
Has seen scrolls: 8, 18  
And holds these treasures: 12 Copper pieces, 9 Electrum pieces, 1 Sapphire gem, 1 Diamond gem, 1 Lapis gem, 1 White potion

**sinjin**  
Holds scrolls: 2, 4, 16, 18  
Has seen scrolls: 3, 6, 14, 15, 17  
And holds these treasures: 25 Copper pieces, 10 Electrum pieces, 13 Silver pieces, 1 Malachite gem, 1 Copper necklace with sapphire, 1 Gold necklace with onyx, 1 Black wand

**Thing Fish**  
Holds scrolls: 3, 4, 5, 10, 12, 15, 16  
Has seen scrolls:  
And holds these treasures: 7 Copper pieces, 9 Silver pieces, 1 Copper ring with diamond, 1 Gold earring with emerald

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/170 "2008-05-06T21:57:12Z")

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Good grief, I’m falling way behind in the knowledge pool here. Come on people, make me offers!

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/171 "2008-05-06T21:59:46Z")

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Okay, I think I’ve caught up on trades, and now I need to archive or delete some older PMs.

**sinjin** , I think I’d have to reject your request even if it weren’t for **Oredigger** ’s interjection. If you had the rule, there’d be no problem with you offering a look at it as a good faith gesture. Without it, I think that you need to find something that can be traded back for it in return.

I don’t stand as intermediary for any communication involving rules not held either - that would lend it the impression of an authorized communique.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/172 "2008-05-06T22:05:21Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
Okay, I think I’ve caught up on trades, and now I need to archive or delete some older PMs.

**sinjin** , I think I’d have to reject your request even if it weren’t for **Oredigger** ’s interjection. If you had the rule, there’d be no problem with you offering a look at it as a good faith gesture. Without it, I think that you need to find something that can be traded back for it in return.

I don’t stand as intermediary for any communication involving rules not held either - that would lend it the impression of an authorized communique.  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m confused. Is my last offer ok? And if so how is the transaction done?

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/173 "2008-05-06T22:10:04Z")

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[QUOTE=sinjin]  
I’m confused. Is my last offer ok? And if so how is the transaction done?  
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Hmm… no, sorry, I think the phrasing was pushing it too far. Offering to tell him just what another player **needs** to know about a rule is too much like asking for outright permission to tell them something you think they need to know - in other words, to discuss strategy privately.

However, if you offered to give the full text of the rule for that copper piece, it would be a legal offer. (Regardless of **AT’s** need to know or the lack of it.)

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/174 "2008-05-06T22:13:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
Good grief, I’m falling way behind in the knowledge pool here. Come on people, make me offers!  
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Digger offer #10: Antinor01 I’ll let you look at 14, 15, and 18 for a look at 7, 11, and 19

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/175 "2008-05-06T22:14:25Z")

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So basically there is no difference between having a scroll to show or not having the scroll?

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/176 "2008-05-06T22:15:51Z")

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NETA: Having a scroll to show or having the information from a scoll you’ve had and traded or seen?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/177 "2008-05-06T22:19:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Oredigger77]  
Digger offer #10: Antinor01 I’ll let you look at 14, 15, and 18 for a look at 7, 11, and 19  
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Counteroffer - look at 7 and 19 for a look at any 2 of the 3 you mentioned.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/178 "2008-05-06T22:24:37Z")

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[QUOTE=sinjin]  
NETA: Having a scroll to show or having the information from a scoll you’ve had and traded or seen?  
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Having the scroll to show means that you have verified information to trade or give away - it’s the power of the printed word. That’s why I send the PMs out myself or verify them if you send them out before I show up.

If you don’t have the scroll, then all you have to offer in trade is hearsay - somebody else can buy, but they’re trusting in your reputation. I won’t insist that you PM them the true rule, and everybody should bear that in mind.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/179 "2008-05-06T22:37:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
Counteroffer - look at 7 and 19 for a look at any 2 of the 3 you mentioned.  
[/QUOTE]

Deal 14 and 18 for 7 and 19

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haggle-the-dragons-hoard-closed/447068/180 "2008-05-06T22:44:25Z")

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Meeko offer 9 ArizonaTeach - a LOOK at 9 and 13 for a LOOK at 19 and 22

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